Bot Deterrant (real)

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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby mulamishne » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:57 pm

Why in the actual world would you prevent the usage of alts in general, allowing less accounts to play the games hurts the bottom line lol
Also IP address limitation is also dumb, I know SEVERAL couples that play this game together, imagine telling them 'sorry, only one of you can play'. That's a quick way to lose two customers.
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby The_Blode » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:04 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:Use an algorithm to detect and cross match IP's used on accounts. If there's 1 IP using two accounts, nuke both accounts. Simple.
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how the fuck am i supposed to play with my wife / kids?
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:05 pm

The_Blode wrote:how the fuck am i supposed to play with my wife / kids?


it would be very easy on the first day you'd just run it through sandboxy or something with a vpn and then a week later a public client would have it inbuilt
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby The_Blode » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:07 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:
The_Blode wrote:how the fuck am i supposed to play with my wife / kids?


it would be very easy on the first day you'd just run it through sandboxy or something with a vpn and then a week later a public client would have it inbuilt


I'm running under the context where his plan to do 1 account per IP works and cannot be circumvented. I'm aware everything he's said is full of holes. I just want him to know that it's stupid and counterproductive at best, too.
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:08 pm

fair
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby terechgracz » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:10 pm

Nocturnal-Rainbows wrote:algorithm

player1: 114.195.162.137
player2: 114.195.162.137
both logged in now
are they bots or not?
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby Nocturnal-Rainbows » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:17 pm

The_Blode wrote:I'm running under the context where his plan to do 1 account per IP works and cannot be circumvented. I'm aware everything he's said is full of holes. I just want him to know that it's stupid and counterproductive at best, too.


The games I played that had 1 account per IP allowed you to have another account if you had a family member or w/e who also wanted to play but you had to email in and get the devs approval. I dunno how that would work here of all places because I'm sure there would be a lot of bad faith actors who would email in to get that extra account with no intention of anyone else but them playing it.

But so fucking what...? Is that the big gotcha here? Alright then, let's go with that. Let's think of the worst-case scenario. Fucking everyone gets two accounts. Still strictly 1 character per account. That is still leagues better than the alt infested shithole we have now.

So riddle me this. Let's say the devs allow every household to have 2 accounts, no emailing in or nothing, all of us just get 2 accounts. Solving the issue of >muh family
What's the argument now against that? That should appease everyone, and it deals with most of the problems. Not as good as having only 1 account would, but it still does the job non the less.
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby sMartins » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:25 pm

Please ... No one here has a family, and in case someone does, his family members certainly don't play this game with him.

For that 0.00001% who escape this rule ... We put 2-3 accounts for everyone and that's it.
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby Hesufo » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:23 pm

The_Blode wrote:how the fuck am i supposed to play with my wife / kids?


why the fuck did you get your wife AND kids to play this godforsaken game?

an IP ban would be actually good news for your family in all honesty.
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Re: Bot Deterrant (real)

Postby Halbertz » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:42 pm

--We need to ban alts!
--Why
--Because I don't like them, okay?
For whatever reason idea of banning everything is living rent free in the mind of big proportion of people. "Just lets use simplest solution to complex problem and we are done!" No, you fuckin not.
The char restricting thing is real in a lot of mmos nowadays. The main argument of multibox opponents is "if we ban boxes people will be forced to play together". I won't even argument on how stupid that is.
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