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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby XBBW » Thu May 07, 2026 5:56 pm

serVar161 wrote:Why isn't it necessary?
If not an additional 100-400 slots, but 1-4.

Most will have the same number of additional slots – 1-2. 3 is also "generally available" but more challenging. And 4 is a challenge.

Considering that "Blood and Bonds" usually takes up 1-2 slots, adding additional slots for research that compensate for this and encourage attribute or stat progression – with the right mechanics – will appeal to most.


Oh yea I forgot the blood and bonds, so yea we really do need more space, also it won't be like 40 by 40, but rather something similar to 10 by 10.
Also let's say how many people have Intelligence in their 100, 200 and so on and that they are still playing.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Thu May 07, 2026 9:06 pm

XBBW wrote:Oh yea I forgot the blood and bonds, so yea we really do need more space, also it won't be like 40 by 40, but rather something similar to 10 by 10.
Also let's say how many people have Intelligence in their 100, 200 and so on and that they are still playing.

There are a lot of them. Especially among those who remain now.

Seriously, you can level up 100 Intelligence in a day. Yes, it's at the expense of other stats, but the 10x10 slots for research will more than make up for it. Up to 200 - in a couple more days.
With this system, everyone will just level up Intelligence and level up the other stats as best they can along the way. They'll level them up depending on how many different curiosities they have and how many slots they need for them.
Too many things will be unbalanced.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby XBBW » Thu May 07, 2026 9:44 pm

serVar161 wrote:
XBBW wrote:Oh yea I forgot the blood and bonds, so yea we really do need more space, also it won't be like 40 by 40, but rather something similar to 10 by 10.
Also let's say how many people have Intelligence in their 100, 200 and so on and that they are still playing.

There are a lot of them. Especially among those who remain now.

Seriously, you can level up 100 Intelligence in a day. Yes, it's at the expense of other stats, but the 10x10 slots for research will more than make up for it. Up to 200 - in a couple more days.
With this system, everyone will just level up Intelligence and level up the other stats as best they can along the way. They'll level them up depending on how many different curiosities they have and how many slots they need for them.
Too many things will be unbalanced.


How? asides from playing 16 hours non-stop, having a bot just to eat intelligence food and if you have spawned in a village/joined a village, but as a hermit playstyle, solo no alts and fresh character without inheritance from dead characters and only playing just couple hours a day, I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby linkfanpc » Thu May 07, 2026 9:48 pm

XBBW wrote:How? asides from playing 16 hours non-stop, having a bot just to eat intelligence food and if you have spawned in a village/joined a village, but as a hermit playstyle, solo no alts and fresh character without inheritance from dead characters and only playing just couple hours a day, I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.


according to my notes i reached 66 intelligence (most of my stats actually) on day 3, and that was me playing pretty casually as a hermit.

this is an example of me being far better at the game than you (thats okay, i've played for far longer and had more free time IRL than you) and skyrocketing past your stats.

so ask yourself; should i really be given an advantage so ASTRONOMICALLY powerful as even ONE extra study slot over you, just because i'm better than you? the objectively correct answer is no.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby XBBW » Thu May 07, 2026 10:00 pm

linkfanpc wrote:
XBBW wrote:How? asides from playing 16 hours non-stop, having a bot just to eat intelligence food and if you have spawned in a village/joined a village, but as a hermit playstyle, solo no alts and fresh character without inheritance from dead characters and only playing just couple hours a day, I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.


according to my notes i reached 66 intelligence (most of my stats actually) on day 3, and that was me playing pretty casually as a hermit.

this is an example of me being far better at the game than you (thats okay, i've played for far longer and had more free time IRL than you) and skyrocketing past your stats.

so ask yourself; should i really be given an advantage so ASTRONOMICALLY powerful as even ONE extra study slot over you, just because i'm better than you? the objectively correct answer is no.

Why not? It is better for me, who cares if the other guy has 30 more slots, it benefits me, anyway Hafen is mostly solo game, after the new world dies down and we go back to our sacred 200 players online, it kind of becomes a "single player" game. So yea, it doesn't matter if bot gets there first, it benefits me, so I don't care.
Forget about that other guy across the water in their huge and fancy base, why should changes that benefit you, should not be introduced into the game just about the other guys will out advantage you argument, like so? Who cares. Play it casual and play it as solo game.
The game isn't designed to be 1500 players all the time, the numbers drop down quick so it might as well be single player game.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby linkfanpc » Thu May 07, 2026 10:10 pm

XBBW wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:
XBBW wrote:How? asides from playing 16 hours non-stop, having a bot just to eat intelligence food and if you have spawned in a village/joined a village, but as a hermit playstyle, solo no alts and fresh character without inheritance from dead characters and only playing just couple hours a day, I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.


according to my notes i reached 66 intelligence (most of my stats actually) on day 3, and that was me playing pretty casually as a hermit.

this is an example of me being far better at the game than you (thats okay, i've played for far longer and had more free time IRL than you) and skyrocketing past your stats.

so ask yourself; should i really be given an advantage so ASTRONOMICALLY powerful as even ONE extra study slot over you, just because i'm better than you? the objectively correct answer is no.

Why not? It is better for me, who cares if the other guy has 30 more slots, it benefits me, anyway Hafen is mostly solo game, after the new world dies down and we go back to our sacred 200 players online, it kind of becomes a "single player" game. So yea, it doesn't matter if bot gets there first, it benefits me, so I don't care.
Forget about that other guy across the water in their huge and fancy base, why should changes that benefit you, should not be introduced into the game just about the other guys will out advantage you argument, like so? Who cares. Play it casual and play it as solo game.
The game isn't designed to be 1500 players all the time, the numbers drop down quick so it might as well be single player game.


"we shouldn't tax the rich because i might be rich one day" ass argument

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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Thu May 07, 2026 10:29 pm

XBBW wrote:How? asides from playing 16 hours non-stop, having a bot just to eat intelligence food and if you have spawned in a village/joined a village, but as a hermit playstyle, solo no alts and fresh character without inheritance from dead characters and only playing just couple hours a day, I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.

If you know how attribute leveling works, it won't be difficult for you.
If you're a beginner or play a couple of hours a day, yes, it will take you longer.

But if a player plays 8+ hours a day, they'll have 100 Intelligence the very next day—no bots, no village.

You say you don't care what the guy in the next village has—that's until they come and punch you with a huge skill gap. Or, more likely, they will. You and other solo players won't even have time to set up a claim and a palisade. And your solo game will be over before it even begins.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby Halbertz » Thu May 07, 2026 11:46 pm

XBBW wrote: I don't see it possible to be able to even reach 100 in a week.

It's day 2-3 stat. Just eat fish bro.
linkfanpc wrote:we shouldn't tax

Now we cooking (fish).
serVar161 wrote:they come and punch you with a huge skill gap

It's not related to stats. 99.5% stay still or akwardly trying to run away on speed 3 - it doesn't matter who ate more fish in most of the cases.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby serVar161 » Fri May 08, 2026 5:21 am

Halbertz wrote:
serVar161 wrote:they come and punch you with a huge skill gap

It's not related to stats. 99.5% stay still or akwardly trying to run away on speed 3 - it doesn't matter who ate more fish in most of the cases.

What I meant was that with so many research slots, they would very quickly level up everything they need (rage, unarmed/melee combat,..) and would knock/kill everyone around.
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Re: Increase study report size by how much you have intelige

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri May 08, 2026 6:21 am

Ok but the study size starts at 1x1, and it scales like pocket quality, so 2 slots at 40 int, 3 slots at 90 int, etc. You get the same amount of slots at about 2k int
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