P2P plan

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[Serious]If this is a social experiment, its not a good one.

Postby Lupich » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:21 pm

I get that Jorb and Loftar enjoy their libertarianism and the freedom they give you in the game, etc, etc. However if this was simply a "test" or social experiment it was a bad one and here's why...

  • No prior warning, hints, or anything regarding a pay model.
  • Previous (and current) forums are, and will be, an unmoderated toxic shithole filled with the worst of the internet. Unlike other sites, you guys choose to do nothing about it. Earlier I was on the official IRC channel and one of the channel operators apparently linked child pornography to the entire chat. I was at work and luckily didn't click it.
  • You're marketing an Alpha, or what Steam has prepared the world to know as "Early Access" - I can agree with paying a monthly charge if its worth it, but historically with Haven, its probably not.
  • If this is your solution to bots, its a bad one. Now they'll just need to create an exponential amount of free accounts to cycle through each month - Chewing up more of your server resources.
  • Until you can guarantee no bots, hacks, or exploits..... egh.


However, it's not all bad. I like the idea of a pay model to ensure consistent development and updates, better servers, and keeping the riff-raff and botters out. I will probably subscribe for 1 month and go from there.


EDIT: Another thought I just had, since I had no warning of a pay model, I spent the last month hyping up the game to a circle of friends. It took a lot of convincing with the russians, bots, hacks, and perma-death already - The surprise pay model was the nail in the coffin.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Lalaxx » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:21 pm

@Jorb @Loftar , Please just say, it's a troll or it's not? Stop killing our nerves
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby norfild » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:21 pm

p2p? bb hnh2
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Headshot » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:22 pm

pay2play 2 or 3$ monthly is ok. But 10$ per 4 weeks is retarded and overpriced.
Im ok with cosmetic shop with non stats stuff like capes or hats. But this! Im better pay for AAA project instead of lagging game.
Also nice try J&L. Wait till start before announce pay 2 play. Very smart.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Metruption » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:22 pm

they have 48 whole hours to tell us if it's a joke
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Re: Loftar, Jorb, please explain your terrible payment syste

Postby Projeear » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:22 pm

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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby wonder-ass » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:23 pm

remember the horse troll how well it was made...yeah
see homo sexuality trending,. do not do that.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Fobia » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:23 pm

What. The. Flying. Fuck.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby rigal » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:23 pm

Lalaxx wrote:@Jorb @Loftar , Please just say, it's a troll or it's not? Stop killing our nerves

If you add an item to the shopping cart and checkout it redirect to you paypal account asking to pay so it is not a joke.
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Re: DEATH TO PAYWALL

Postby Owls » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:24 pm

AD/DIS/POLSKA CREW
reject to play pay2play,ask frost he will be god here
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