Idea for noobs

[Scruffy]

Perhaps the game is just hard?

The game is not difficult Burinn, it is just simply
too easy to be griefed while you are first forming
your village. During the first week of the new world,
our village was palibashed by Dis raiders, and we had
no way of avoiding such a disaster.

I also recommend that handbashing walls should
be impossible. Raiding should be done with the
implemented siege engines. Anything that deviates
from this concept is quite simply bug abusing.

[Hasta]

Please try to stay on topic and stop shit-posting in legitimate Critiques and Ideas threads. The OP and other community members discussing this idea are clearly very honest in their intentions to improve the state of the game and they do not need trolls like you to try and censor meaningful discourse with this derailing...

Also as has already been proven here viewtopic.php?f=40&t=48899,
The moderators are actually the chief creators of this shit posting and TekNight is just trying to troll with his wild accusations. You should honestly learn who is writing things before you take them all for face value, please do more research in the future, and maybe some day you will actually be able to contribute to the improvement of haven instead of just wasting time.

So, if we remove all the fancy unnecessary words, "shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun". I hear ya.

Well, this would look like a legit discussion, if only there were a single constructive suggestion. But alas, the last two pages are just the same people perpetuating the same nonsence, hyperbolizing it a bit more with each post. I admit, this is a nice technique - you ridicule the idea, bit by bit, until it becomes a laughing matter, all the while the initial problem persists -- not on the scale it have been blown out of proportions to, but still at the very real one.

And with moderators, it's just like boiling a frog: if you throw it into a water too hot, the frog will jump out immediately; but if you sllloooowly make the temperature go up, the moderator won't catch a moment where seemingly legit discussion turns into a complete trollfest.

[cecelia]

Please try to stay on topic and stop shit-posting in legitimate Critiques and Ideas threads. The OP and other community members discussing this idea are clearly very honest in their intentions to improve the state of the game and they do not need trolls like you to try and censor meaningful discourse with this derailing...

Also as has already been proven here viewtopic.php?f=40&t=48899,
The moderators are actually the chief creators of this shit posting and TekNight is just trying to troll with his wild accusations. You should honestly learn who is writing things before you take them all for face value, please do more research in the future, and maybe some day you will actually be able to contribute to the improvement of haven instead of just wasting time.

So, if we remove all the fancy unnecessary words, "shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun". I hear ya.

Well, this would look like a legit discussion, if only there were a single constructive suggestion. But alas, the last two pages are just the same people perpetuating the same nonsence, hyperbolizing it a bit more with each post. I admit, this is a nice technique - you ridicule the idea, bit by bit, until it becomes a laughing matter, all the while the initial problem persists -- not on the scale it have been blown out of proportions to, but still at the very real one.

And with moderators, it's just like boiling a frog: if you throw it into a water too hot, the frog will jump out immediately; but if you sllloooowly make the temperature go up, the moderator won't catch a moment where seemingly legit discussion turns into a complete trollfest.

the frog can't jump out if your pot is deep enough

[ChildhoodObesity]

"shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun".

[Onep]

"shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun".

Period goes inside the quotation.

[Scruffy]

Please try to stay on topic and stop shit-posting in legitimate Critiques and Ideas threads. The OP and other community members discussing this idea are clearly very honest in their intentions to improve the state of the game and they do not need trolls like you to try and censor meaningful discourse with this derailing...

Also as has already been proven here viewtopic.php?f=40&t=48899,
The moderators are actually the chief creators of this shit posting and TekNight is just trying to troll with his wild accusations. You should honestly learn who is writing things before you take them all for face value, please do more research in the future, and maybe some day you will actually be able to contribute to the improvement of haven instead of just wasting time.

So, if we remove all the fancy unnecessary words, "shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun". I hear ya.

Well, this would look like a legit discussion, if only there were a single constructive suggestion. But alas, the last two pages are just the same people perpetuating the same nonsence, hyperbolizing it a bit more with each post. I admit, this is a nice technique - you ridicule the idea, bit by bit, until it becomes a laughing matter, all the while the initial problem persists -- not on the scale it have been blown out of proportions to, but still at the very real one.

And with moderators, it's just like boiling a frog: if you throw it into a water too hot, the frog will jump out immediately; but if you sllloooowly make the temperature go up, the moderator won't catch a moment where seemingly legit discussion turns into a complete trollfest.

I don't understand how this thread
is a trollfest. This is exactly what
jorb and loftar intended; haven
players recommending their own
ideas, and others commenting on
their strengths and weaknesses.

I don't appreciate your analogy with
the frog by the way, I consider that
animal abuse, and to be on par with
raiding defenseless newbies who cannot
repel a fourteen hour siege.

[Hasta]

"shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun".

Period goes inside the quotation.

Like this? "If you can't attack the idea, focus on punctucation."

[ChildhoodObesity]

if we are going to leave siege in the game i think we should introduce the united nations and if someone tries to siege someone the united nations (jorb+loftar) will nuke them

[Onep]

"shut up nab, you're a nobody here, let those who consider themselves "an inner circle" have their fun".

Period goes inside the quotation.

Like this? "If you can't attack the idea, focus on punctucation."

Well, if you're going to derail this brainstorming session, you could at least do it properly.

[ven]

Well, this would look like a legit discussion, if only there were a single constructive suggestion. But alas, the last two pages are just the same people perpetuating the same nonsence, hyperbolizing it a bit more with each post. I admit, this is a nice technique - you ridicule the idea, bit by bit, until it becomes a laughing matter, all the while the initial problem persists -- not on the scale it have been blown out of proportions to, but still at the very real one.

Hey, removing walls is a legit suggestion that if implemented correctly will bridge the gap between noobs and no-lifers and end this binary system of de facto complete safety/complete vulnerability. Then maybe the devs will finally stop wasting time on siege updates and focus on content that attracts and keeps new people in the game.

Related: I was in valhalla yesterday and found out you can't chop trees and do artwork anymore.