Subtoken Tributes

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Re: Tribute feature

Postby Burinn » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:31 pm

shubla wrote:Subtokens should be deleted.
I think its just stupid that people demand actual real life currency not to raid your place. It should be not allowed.


I think you're wrong.
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Re: Tribute feature

Postby Hasta » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:36 pm

shubla wrote:Subtokens should be deleted.
I think its just stupid that people demand actual real life currency not to raid your place. It should be not allowed.


Why is that exactly? It's a game with open-world pvp. Since none of "your" stuff ingame (including tokens, shop items and your very character) actually belongs to you, racketing for in-game items is an in-game mechanic.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby shubla » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:50 pm

Subtokens are stupid game mechanic and should be removed. Sure they do good things to devs wallets but they ruin the game.
Gifting subscription to specific username would work better.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby Hasta » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:40 pm

shubla wrote:Subtokens are stupid game mechanic and should be removed.

I'd like you to elaborate on that. The necessity of subtokens was discussed a lot on this forum and most arguments against them were debunked multiple times quite easily. I'm sure you've come up with something new this time?
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby Burinn » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:03 pm

Hasta wrote:
shubla wrote:Subtokens are stupid game mechanic and should be removed.

I'd like you to elaborate on that. The necessity of subtokens was discussed a lot on this forum and most arguments against them were debunked multiple times quite easily. I'm sure you've come up with something new this time?


They're stupid. Therefore they should be removed.

Sounds like sound logic to me Hasta.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby Hasta » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:48 pm

Burinn wrote:They're stupid. Therefore they should be removed.

Sounds like sound logic to me Hasta.


That would be a sound logic if there were arguments presented on why are they stupid.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby LadyV » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:18 pm

It is very much a crime for people to do so.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extortion

Extortion does not require the end item be money to qualify as a crime. They demanded money to buy the token so in legal eyes it is the same thing.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby Hasta » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:27 pm

LadyV wrote:It is very much a crime for people to do so.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extortion

Extortion does not require the end item be money to qualify as a crime. They demanded money to buy the token so in legal eyes it is the same thing.


Requires a property demanded to change hands in favor of extortionist; a threat have to be made against life, health or property. Neither are applicable to players, since, again, they have no property in-game.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby shubla » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:07 pm

Seatribe should just say that they dont allow people demanding real money for not raiding someone. If someone does this, player being demanded from can pm jorb/loftar and then they can check some chatlogs.
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Re: Subtoken Tributes

Postby dzielny_wojownik » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:31 pm

you can earn subtokens without any money aswell you have a choice not to pay lol
the extorters are just be helping jorb/loft with their wallets! its only good for the devs. we need such a feature.
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