Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

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Re: Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

Postby shubla » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:22 pm

Pre download all sounds?
Slowly on background?
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Re: Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

Postby Kaios » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:26 am

loftar wrote:Having different ambient sounds and music for each terrain would be one of those really, really nice things, for sure. :)


The brief music that already plays on different biomes is really nice, I wish it would play for longer. How many "songs" in total are there anyways? There's several Celtic sounding jig-like songs such as on leaf terrain for example and another similar sounding one I think while you're in a boat.
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Postby Jacobian123 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:16 pm

Bump. Are we getting new music with this new world?
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Re: Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

Postby waga » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:21 pm

I wanted to kill myself everytime I entered a house.
yes sure at first it was great and it bring some nostalgia
but listening to it 50 times a day ? no thx >_<
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Postby Asgaroth22 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:42 pm

I hopped in onto legacy today to see how it's faring (god I can't believe how awkward it was on vanilla client), and the music when i entered a house brought back some nostalgia. It was quite climatic, i'd really like to hear some indoors music sometime, because most of the time the only thing you hear while being in a house are the sounds of opening/closing cupboards. It's kinda depressing.
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Re: Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

Postby loftar » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:14 am

Granger wrote:Why not? At least it gets the job done (render a MIDI to something that can be stuffed into an audio output stream by the client), KISS principle has its merit at times.

I too enjoy applying the KISS principle wherever possible, but with all the complexities involved is fetching, unpacking, starting and communicating with external processes on a wide variety of systems and deployment environments, this strikes me more as "stupid" than "simple". I have enough maintenance trouble with JOGL as it is. I mean, on my local system I wouldn't have two qualms about calling Timidty to do MIDI decoding for whatever purposes, but the client doesn't just on my local system.

Granger wrote:Regarding the handling of loading/streaming: Why not just fetch them as any other resource then (as long as it won't block important stuff)? First play will be delayed by loading time, but that won't hurt as it is 'only' background music and the client will cache them all over time anyway.

Two main reasons:
1. It is perhaps one thing when the loading time is a second or two, but when playing over a bandwidth that causes it to be a minute or two, I'm just not sure the ugliness that it entails is worth it anymore.
2. If multiple music resource downloads queue up, they will start blocking other resource downloads until completed, which is not very nice when there might be tens of seconds before they complete. Fixing that problem would require some kind of quality-of-service structures for the resource fetcher the complexity of which does not seem proportionate to the result.
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Re: Bring back indoor music. It was charming and great.

Postby TheOriginalFive » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:23 am

Maybe you could release an official Haven soundtrack sometime? As a download for personal listening.
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Postby loftar » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:43 pm

TheOriginalFive wrote:Maybe you could release an official Haven soundtrack sometime? As a download for personal listening.

Someone has already put most of them on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re2Rpy1 ... y9J_hdj-3Y
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Postby Potjeh » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:50 pm

I still don't get the point of loading resources on the run. All it does is create stupid situation like getting killed by invisible animals. IMO all resources should be downloaded along with the client, for much smoother gameplay experience on shitty connections.
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Postby Keiriku » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:00 pm

Glad we have access to the source code :)
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