Petition to Jorb for Stat Caps

[Bauta]

holy fuck
that feeling when western extreme leftism and the special butterfly generation is so influential that nobody even dared to assume I might be sarcastic

Damn nikola, what button did I press that made you print buzzwords like an internet journalist?

Also the whole hurr durr game for unemployed arguements are invalid. Its an mmo, play with a group of like minded, im sure you could make something happen in the oh so limited time.

It's an open world survival/crafting MMO, a specific kind of MMO in which a lot of your progress through the game is a tangible, in-game presence other players can interact with. Time invested is as important as skills and preplanning, if not more. Every person committed to playing the game is playing as much as they can, but some people can play more than others. Other MMOs of this genre get around this by having community servers that only come on at certain timeframes, or just by catering to people in a particular region of the world. H&H doesn't have the playerbase for that, so unless you want the devs to rely on autismbux or russian trust-fund kiddies, "how can the game balance no-lifers and people with jobs and/or family" remains what the dev path circles around.

[Potjeh]

Oh no! If only you could do something about it! Guess its time to ring the no-fun bell alarm then!

Well I guess I could quit my job and go on welfare, but how do I afford subscription then?

[Zentetsuken]

angry, mildly racist effortposting

who hurt you boy

[Bauta]

angry, mildly racist effortposting

who hurt you boy

For someone who goes on "ironic" tirades and complains about snowflakes after some innocent kosovo shitposting you seem to be quick on the label gun. Feel free to make a productive post anytime.

[wonder-ass]

with a more fleshed out endgame stat cap would be much more acceptable. but sadly there is not much endgame yet.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

with a more fleshed out endgame stat cap would be much more acceptable. but sadly there is not much endgame yet.

The day we stop thinking about the solution being an 'end game' and instead being an 'ongoing game' is the day we start to make progress.

There is no end game, there is only the next stage of 'what do we do now'.

[Aceb]

STATCAP is never gonna work.
There always will be people who will want it. There always will be people against it.

Sorry greenman, but I'm gonna use You as example:

There is literally no reason to play the game when one reaches the stat cap.

This implies that the game doesn't have to offer anything except grind to raise numbers, at least to a part of the player base that expresses this mindset.

It's both about mindset and goals. If You have statcap, people who reach it, can either engage in PvP or... or what? After reaching every possible technology advance, recipe, max stat, every item, there's no more motivation to stay beside roleplay* and PvP**.
So, like A LOT of people consider game done if they achieve everything provided by the devs and have deep in their ahole if there's any community engagment.
Not having statcap, one could say it's just "rising number game" but since the games exist, LEADERBOARDS are a thing and getting higher quality in stuff is like climbing that leaderboard ladder, the higher You are, the better You feel about yourself, your achievements or whatever You call it. Whatever. Making statcap always takes away some goals or stop goals at certain point.

So I will never say a yes to statcap. I can agree with catching up mechanics but as it stands, for most people I've talked with deeply enough, "ohh titans have such high stats...." was very often, just a fucking excuse. Nothing more.

* for roleplay, You don't have to worry about stats much, which renders statcap unnecessary.
**seems a lot of haven players don't wanna engage PvP and stats is only excuse, so statcap again, doesn't matter, beside devs not liking it either.

[Burinn]

There needs to be a moratorium on stat cap threads or something.

[Ysh]

They are pretty arbitrary impositions

Physical limit to human body is arbitrary? Haven physics is like in Japan cartoon show maybe. What is required agility score to move faster than light?

[Burinn]

They are pretty arbitrary impositions

Physical limit to human body is arbitrary? Haven physics is like in Japan cartoon show maybe. What is required agility score to move faster than light?

Ugh. Please no. There shouldn't be super-human like stats in Haven.