Nerf Cave Anglers

[SnuggleSnail]

Rotating nodes wouldn't reduce the power or need for these bots, it'd increase it, because it's greatly increase the quantity of animals needed to be scouted/killed. If your goal is to hinder hunting automation the better option is to normalize animal qualities.

I personally really liked all bears being Q200 in legacy, and all trolls being ?200+25? per cave level?

[Ardennesss]

Rotating nodes wouldn't reduce the power or need for these bots, it'd increase it, because it's greatly increase the quantity of animals needed to be scouted/killed. If your goal is to hinder hunting automation the better option is to normalize animal qualities.

I personally really liked all bears being Q200 in legacy, and all trolls being ?200+25? per cave level?

Also agreed, legacy quality being directly correlated to animal difficulty made a lot of sense. Maybe something to consider bringing back after they redo the animal AI like they're apparently working on.

[Oddity]

If you keep nerfing shit that literally anyone can take advantage of, then everything will end up like pooled curiosities: instead of everyone getting some and a few botters getting more, it will be botters getting 999 and all the little people get 0.

[Burinn]

I taught Ardennes everything he knows about programming. There is no way he is capable of making bots this sophisticated.

[xdragonlord18]

I taught Ardennes everything he knows about programming. There is no way he is capable of making bots this sophisticated.

It's barely a bot. It's more like an alarm clock.

[Headchef]

So I put my vclaim on some random land, dig some minehole, and there it is: q450 cave angler spawn, right under me. What does my enemy get? q80, cause fuck them.

Zero skill, just RNG.
Would be nice if animals didn't have quality nodes, but rather random qualities every time. Or something like (base quality + accumulated bonus from quests + the random extra quality).
Just animals

I would like this too actually

[Mario_Demorez]

That idea should apply to hunting AND foraging. This could make foraging and hunting not fall off in long worlds.

[maze]

so we're all going to farm cave anglers now for insane hide's + leather and push most production past q450 then be stagnant for a few months while farm animals + crops catch up.
In the mean time feeding the miners dried cave angler + animals + composting the meat to make q450 dirt.

Haven and hearth will run off of cave angler. In past world it was mammoth for factions.
I feel most people have access to cave angler, unlike mammoths what are much more rare.

For the Q issue. I feel if the Q of animals node go down with over hunting would be ideal.
base Q for all animals ie anglers being 200.
if you hunt the angler the node Q will lower by 25 and takes 1 hour per Q drop to go back up.
this will make big village have to deal with over hunting in one spot until their stuff becomes craps. and hermits win for being lazy.

What will push factions/ large village into making outpost.

[LaserSaysPew]

so we're all going to farm cave anglers now for insane hide's + leather and push most production past q450 then be stagnant for a few months while farm animals + crops catch up.
In the mean time feeding the miners dried cave angler + animals + composting the meat to make q450 dirt.

Haven and hearth will run off of cave angler. In past world it was mammoth for factions.
I feel most people have access to cave angler, unlike mammoths what are much more rare.

For the Q issue. I feel if the Q of animals node go down with over hunting would be ideal.
base Q for all animals ie anglers being 200.
if you hunt the angler the node Q will lower by 25 and takes 1 hour per Q drop to go back up.
this will make big village have to deal with over hunting in one spot until their stuff becomes craps. and hermits win for being lazy.

What will push factions/ large village into making outpost.

Won't it also push factions into kosing everyone who had the misfortune of wandering into a high q animal spawn zone?

[MagicManICT]

Won't it also push factions into kosing everyone who had the misfortune of wandering into a high q animal spawn zone?

Is that any different than the current game?