Make whales and orcas more common

[Zentetsuken]

whales and orcas should unironically be removed until devs are ready to tackle the whole pve AI overhaul they keep mentioning

deep ocean can be seeded with some other aggressive fish or dangers in the meantime, like a few ptarmigan or winter stoat level animals, easy to fight like any other animal and gives some reward that is okay, but not some massive reward cheese fest that is only obtainable by 1% of the playerbase.

[ctopolon4]

add all animal AI a ranged attack

There always will be room for cheessing. Mammoth already has range attack. I'm not sure that mammoth fight more interesting than any other.

run away script

Same. You could always block it with something.

rage mode with regen

That's better. Someone suggests to replace troll's "cave in" attack with regen and I absolutely agree with this. Regen for whales? Idk, man. Whole fight is stupid, where you SHOULD drag it to shore and bug somehow, or big chongus will destroy ship under you in seconds.

there is no pali on water for cachalots yet. just forbid mammoth to enter pali gates. start regen only if abuse detected. fair fight welcome

[strpk0]

add all animal AI a ranged attack

There always will be room for cheessing. Mammoth already has range attack. I'm not sure that mammoth fight more interesting than any other.

run away script

Same. You could always block it with something.

rage mode with regen

That's better. Someone suggests to replace troll's "cave in" attack with regen and I absolutely agree with this. Regen for whales? Idk, man. Whole fight is stupid, where you SHOULD drag it to shore and bug somehow, or big chongus will destroy ship under you in seconds.

there is no pali on water for cachalots yet. just forbid mammoth to enter pali gates. start regen only if abuse detected. fair fight welcome

not sure why people think making animals you can't fight fairly impossible to cheese is a good idea

explain to me how you'd kill a mammoth if cheesing wasn't a thing (horses included)
or a whale, orca, troll, etc

the whole reason why people cheese everything is because any relevant animal just destroys you in one way or another, regardless of stats or skill (not including hilarious things like trolls deciding to cave you in randomly even if being fairly fought)

[Halbertz]

explain to me how you'd kill a mammoth if cheesing wasn't a thing (horses included)
or a whale, orca, troll, etc
the whole reason why people cheese everything is because any relevant animal just destroys you in one way or another, regardless of stats or skill (not including hilarious things like trolls deciding to cave you in randomly even if being fairly fought)

Just this. PvE as aleck said needs a complete rework. Right now we are pretending that we hunting stuff, but you can't lie to yourself forever.

Btw you could kill mammoth with 3-4 ppl w/o problem, but I doubt that zerging will work on whales

[strpk0]

Btw you could kill mammoth with 3-4 ppl w/o problem, but I doubt that zerging will work on whales

agreed, but even with that in mind what you get from a mammoth isn't worth the crappy wounds and damaged armor, and it would make hunting them a nails on chalkboard experience (or just another thing you use throwaway hunter alts for)

and everything above that is just flat out impossible like you mentioned

[ctopolon4]

explain to me how you'd kill a mammoth if cheesing wasn't a thing (horses included)
or a whale, orca, troll, etc

just get 4 ppl lol... jump into water and fight
if you have a good team you will have only scratches

[MadNomad]

here is no pali on water for cachalots yet.

you can still build either a palisade or a stick fence on land and hide from ranged attacks if they had such

[strpk0]

just get 4 ppl lol... jump into water and fight

i'd love to see someone attempt this, from what i've seen you can barely tank the openings whales give you, dunno what it'd look like if you were actually hitting it back (and doing like 50-80 damage at a time)
being in water and getting your entire village KOd sounds like a fun experience

[DonVelD]

i'd love to see someone attempt this, from what i've seen you can barely tank the openings whales give you, dunno what it'd look like if you were actually hitting it back (and doing like 50-80 damage at a time)
being in water and getting your entire village KOd sounds like a fun experience

AND we aren't considering the knarr damage yet haha

[ZamAlex]

jump into water and fight