A Plea For Lock Changes

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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby Dawidio123 » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:32 pm

overtyped wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:~5% AC

5% movement speed
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:32 pm

noindyfikator wrote:Not sure if snail is trolling or just pretending to be spruce


Trolling / Trying to game devs for competitive advantage

Devs don't know how important tiny AC is for low opening cleave meta
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby overtyped » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:34 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:? when do you think anvil spiraling was removed ? when do you think I first suggested the minehole timegate ? Also, you don't have to play it up and push a narrative or whatever on page 3. Jorbtar are not reading this.

At least you're kindof answering the pranking:just dumb question

Of course, we all know you have our best interests at heart, and I'm sure these changes were all thanks to you, just like I'm sure you had absolutely nothing to do with the critter chasing fix being reversed. :roll:

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overtyped wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:~5% AC

5% movement speed

I read that as 5% movement speed for rabbits, my bad Mr. I know it's referring to the plate boots being 5% more AC.
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:44 pm

Just to point out, plate boots are actually huge AC, and even if it were 5% that's not 5% damage differential.
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby SnuggleSnail » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:47 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:
noindyfikator wrote:Not sure if snail is trolling or just pretending to be spruce


Trolling / Trying to game devs for competitive advantage

Devs don't know how important tiny AC is for low opening cleave meta


Is somebody competent feeding you intentionally retarded lines that might make sense to a layman? I would never in a million years believe this isn't bait if it wasn't coming from somebody I've personally fought and know is bad.

But ye, 5% AC doesn't matter for low cleaves because they are - by definition - low cleaves AKA under AC either way. The only time it matters is verse big hits.

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:even if it were 5% that's not 5% damage differential.


This is also false in a similar way


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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:57 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:I've personally fought and know is bad.


That's pretty funny because I personally fought you too and know you're laughably bad. I understand why you need to forum PvP.

Also regarding your misanalysis on low opening cleave, not sure if just ignorant or intentionally misleading to try to retain advantage. In case it's the former I won't educate you.
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby overtyped » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:20 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:
Robben_DuMarsch wrote:
noindyfikator wrote:Not sure if snail is trolling or just pretending to be spruce


Trolling / Trying to game devs for competitive advantage

Devs don't know how important tiny AC is for low opening cleave meta


Is somebody competent feeding you intentionally retarded lines that might make sense to a layman? I would never in a million years believe this isn't bait if it wasn't coming from somebody I've personally fought and know is bad.

But ye, 5% AC doesn't matter for low cleaves because they are - by definition - low cleaves AKA under AC either way. The only time it matters is verse big hits.

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:even if it were 5% that's not 5% damage differential.


This is also false in a similar way


I'ma go to the gym you guys keep up the good work

Trying to shift discourse to petty insults is a little silly. I'm sure you do fine in pvp, just as Robbin does fine. But as good as you believe you are, you have at least proven in this thread, that you don't understand how haven's dmg calculations work. Which means you are giving advice on pvp without any knowledge on the simplest fundamentals.

You haven't run the math, and I don't think you are trolling either. You genuinely don't understand how important 5% more armor is, which is a little scary considering how long you've been pvping.

This should prove the risk of making changes at the advice of "pvpers" like snail. They don't really understand the game, which means any advice they give is no better than a new players. They just gank sprucecaps then pretend they are experts to try to squeeze out changes that might benefit them, without doing any research.

They're just winging it, and then when they are proven wrong, they just move onto the next thing, or go to the "gym" and pretend it didn't happen, while continuing to call themselves knowledgeable and giving more "advice" as if it were factual. It's really unfortunate. Genuinely.
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby magnet » Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:45 pm

overtyped wrote:A one week irl time gate per layer sounds great. +1

isnt this what we already have?? https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Mine_Pyre

overtyped wrote:You haven't run the math, and I don't think you are trolling either. You genuinely don't understand how important 5% more armor is,

then why dont you post the math? as a layman reading this i wish you WB guys would spend less time attacking snails character and just prove your point
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby dafels » Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:08 am

noindyfikator wrote:Not sure if snail is trolling or just pretending to be spruce

Do we need commentary from mods?
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Re: A Plea For Lock Changes

Postby Dawidio123 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:26 am

magnet wrote:
overtyped wrote:You haven't run the math, and I don't think you are trolling either. You genuinely don't understand how important 5% more armor is,

then why dont you post the math? as a layman reading this i wish you WB guys would spend less time attacking snails character and just prove your point

SNAIL BAD SNAIL BAD SNAIL BAD or smth idk. It's easier to put the burden of proof on the opposite party knowing they won't put the effort in to explain because they couldn't care less.
But between the group that knows how to calculate the best way to kill someone based on their hp and knows a ton of obscure details on ingame mechanics (that aren't on the wiki, if your proof of ANYTHING is based of wiki you are a fool) or the other group that has people running into caves without peeking, building wagons to block, bob dole not knowing how to claim block a cave and so on or claiming that pulling an eagle on him pretending to afk is an "exploit", i know which group i'd trust on the combat details.
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