stats differents kill pvp

[MightySheep]

double stats?????
i have 50 stats and people in this topic has 300+ its not double.
I'll be fine if the players from this thread have twice as much as I do, namely 100 stats or a little more, but not 4 to 5 times more

how much stats you have btw.

u have the stats of a week 1 character because in ur own words u barely put any time into the game but youre complaining u cant fight the top players, wat kind of argument is this

ur not the norm, even hermits have way more than u

If jorb today give your character 9999 each stat, you wont ko anyone but random hermits (that you can ko right now).

Is that somehow different from what the “best” PvPers are doing anyways? Besides them being more likely to kill than KO.

do u post just to boost postcount or why is every post so dumb and pointless like white noise ? plenty of pvp video on my youtube if you re unsure what goes on in this game

[Kaios]

For me the question is rhetorical since I already know the answer so it is kind of a boost count post yeah.

[Vert]

double stats?????
i have 50 stats and people in this topic has 300+ its not double.
I'll be fine if the players from this thread have twice as much as I do, namely 100 stats or a little more, but not 4 to 5 times more

how much stats you have btw.

u have the stats of a week 1 character because in ur own words u barely put any time into the game but youre complaining u cant fight the top players, wat kind of argument is this

ur not the norm, even hermits have way more than u

If jorb today give your character 9999 each stat, you wont ko anyone but random hermits (that you can ko right now).

Is that somehow different from what the “best” PvPers are doing anyways? Besides them being more likely to kill than KO.

do u post just to boost postcount or why is every post so dumb and pointless like white noise ? plenty of pvp video on my youtube if you re unsure what goes on in this game

that why stat difences should be less, its save your time, its save my time. and it give more pvp

[Valgar]

If the point is "how to save a maximum of time", we can just play something else, we will save a lot of time.
There is game for fast fun : Call of Duty, Fortnite, Rust, etc... that are more designed for fastfood fun or low grind effort.

Haven & Hearth is a very looooong term game, and of course the grind & efforts should deserve the victory.


Vert you looks wounded by the reality of H&H, perhaps you started as a "thug" or was thinking about doing a faction and conquering the world, and the reality of H&H shown you were wrong.
Just switch, and grind your stuff for the next few month, play without the war and PvP stress and come back later to capture some Provinces.

[Vert]

If the point is "how to save a maximum of time", we can just play something else, we will save a lot of time.
There is game for fast fun : Call of Duty, Fortnite, Rust, etc... that are more designed for fastfood fun or low grind effort.

Haven & Hearth is a very looooong term game, and of course the grind & efforts should deserve the victory.


Vert you looks wounded by the reality of H&H, perhaps you started as a "thug" or was thinking about doing a faction and conquering the world, and the reality of H&H shown you were wrong.
Just switch, and grind your stuff for the next few month, play without the war and PvP stress and come back later to capture some Provinces.

I increase local quality but it takes from me because it break pvp and take a lot of time to grind
return it or remove stat grind

[Valgar]

I increase local quality but it takes from me because it break pvp and take a lot of time to grind
return it or remove stat grind

I don't think the Local Qualities are a thing due to the drifting qualities. Only Water, Soil, Stones, Clay are fixed it seems, all others qualities will change every new moon.

Train your tactics on Valhalla, and make some tests if you are loving PvP.

[Vert]

I increase local quality but it takes from me because it break pvp and take a lot of time to grind
return it or remove stat grind

I don't think the Local Qualities are a thing due to the drifting qualities. Only Water, Soil, Stones, Clay are fixed it seems, all others qualities will change every new moon.

Train your tactics on Valhalla, and make some tests if you are loving PvP.

i dont like eating 24 /7 to be competitive

[The_Lich_King]

i have 50 stats and people in this topic has 300+ its not double.
I'll be fine if the players from this thread have twice as much as I do, namely 100 stats or a little more, but not 4 to 5 times more

how much stats you have btw.

Bruh i had 50 stats for an embarrassingly long time this world, and want you to know that so that you don't shrug this off as another 300 statter trying to push agenda.

As it so happens, the 300 statters are right on this one. Literally i have played less than 2 hours a day this world, mostly because real life obligations got in the way, but regardless it would be nonsense to suggest that a 50 statter should stand on equal footing with a 300 statter. Why? Because one of us is playing it casually for our own enjoyment and the other is dedicating 100s of hours into being competitive on the PVP scene.

To put this into comparison, I play league of legends and also dedicate very little time to it because i get bored playing one video game forever. I am pretty bad at it and any High Elo player would destroy me. What you are suggesting would be like me going on League and saying that High Elo players should be penalized and receive nerfs when playing against me because they are better at the game... that would be an insane suggestion on league and it is equally insane here in Haven.

Now I know it feels like this is a dumb comparison because it doesn't feel like someone who massively outstats won due to being a better player but they actually did. They knew the early game better, set up their industry better, had better symbol, feasted more... etc. They knew the game better. They were more skilled. Too say that them outplaying you at the start should be penalized would be like saying a Challenger player should be penalized for being able to outplay a Silver player. That would be insane and equally so it would be insane to suggest that a 50 stat solo Hermit who only puts in 8 hours a week should be on equal footing with a 200 hour no-lifer. I get that no-lifers ruin a huge amount of the fun of this game but if stats straight up are meaningless in this game then so is the game itself because the grind is what haven is.

If you want to talk about giving newbies a early world shield i am here for you (would be exploitable but its worth a talk)

If you want to talk about random aggression prevention i am here.

But arguing that I who barely played this world should be on equal footing with Frost, or Sheep or Maze... etc. I think that would kill the game because it would kill the grind.

[Sephiron]

I increase local quality but it takes from me because it break pvp and take a lot of time to grind
return it or remove stat grind

I don't think the Local Qualities are a thing due to the drifting qualities. Only Water, Soil, Stones, Clay are fixed it seems, all others qualities will change every new moon.

Train your tactics on Valhalla, and make some tests if you are loving PvP.

i dont like eating 24 /7 to be competitive

Idk then don't be competitive? Assuming "being competitive " is participating in things like meteor fights or thingwall challenges, Even if your stats are crazy high, if you're not in a large village/faction you won't be able to reasonably compete either way. Grovel at the feet of major villages for table scraps like the rest of us

[MightySheep]

i eat like once a week and Ive been to all the pvp stuff

meanwhile the ppl " eating 24 /7 " lose every fight