linkfanpc wrote:should only be like 2-3 seconds. the big thing in my idea is giving enough time between them bashing the fence and beginning to steal that you'll notice and be able to mount the defensive.
2-3 seconds might work for stealing, but for bashing it already takes that time or longer.
A drying frame takes about 5 seconds with a fresh alt, so a character with decent strength will only take 2-3 seconds. Bashing the 20 or so frames the hermit guy has doesn't take long, so they often do it.
But if it took them 30 seconds or more per frame, nobody would bother. They'd just steal the hides from it, and leave the empty frame be.
I'm saying frames, but the same works for anything else: tubs, cupboards, trellises, whatever. For big items like smelters or kilns, just make the timer proportionally bigger.
As an easy general rule they could just make a 10x to the time it takes you to bash something when you lack vandalism permissions.
You'd still get your loot by stealing it, but you wouldn't spend 20 minutes to bash everything the hermit has.
linkfanpc wrote:in regards to body looting i still kind of like the change they made to where looting bodies takes time so you can only loot a certain amount of items BUT i think if that were to be implemented it has to be done in a way that that only affects mugging randoms and not pvp battles. you should 100% be allowed the spoils of war but i don't think you should be allowed to completely empty a sprucie's inventory there's just no reason for the thief to other than to ruin the victim's day and outright pointless griefing like that should be avoided IMO.
my solution would be making it so outlaw'd or MAYBE anyone with rage doesn't have the it-takes-time-to-steal effect on them when you steal from their unconscious/dead body but really there needs to be a better way to differentiate fighting at war and fighting to steal/defend oneself.
Spoils of war should come from kills, not KOs.
It's just absurd that people going to PVP fights are the least likely to ever die to PVP.
I'm a strong believer KO protection should stop after a certain threshold is reached. When your combat attributes (STR, AGI, CON) and/or abilities (UC / MC ) reach a certain point, you should just lose it. Might even slowly increase with the age of the world if we want hunters and miners to not fall through the cracks.
That way fighters would eventually lose KO protection, unless they decide to completely stop growing their character.
Probably needs some testing to find the right balance, but you get the idea.
Reiber wrote:honestly i hated that "strip script"
yes. you should be able to loot people in combat. but lets be real here. 99% of cases. are just . if somebody is getting knocked out. you click on them once. to insta strip every single item out of them. and those rot.
especially in larger pvp battles. nobody pilfers through that shit. people mostly wear replaceable stuff and armour. and you can assume that your shit is either better or equal. also the player on the ground has shot up armour now. and the battle is still going on
people just strip people for the heck of it. and nabs can then dig up or fish out. the 1/3th hp wing helmets. or like the 3th best moosehide jacket some pvp player had 3 days ago.
even worse. the average attack on noobs. is you just stripping them. taking idk. the blueberrys. you "foraged" from them, cause its faster than actually forraging. , and if you find their base. and there is any gap in it. or its not dry. you take. idk. the leather. the chests. filled with curios you arent gonna use. and metal. maybe they have gems. and the rest you throw on the ground. or bash.
the majority of their shit is just left on the ground. only stripped of them. or bashed because "haha" or because you want them to move. or quit the game. lets be real.
and you know. i get that.. i do it to players in worse situations than me. i get it done to me by others.
but currently people just get mogged cause its 100% free. you dont even shit your pants going out in your valuables anymore. cause nothing is as unsave as "home"
This.
by Halbertz » Tue Aug 18, 2026 8:25 pm 
