A few issues with combat

[Kaios]

How the hell is Firdsman(iron) and Bronze sword have higher armor pen than a Steel one? Adding a one handed axe to a game with 10% cd decrease but with same damage as hirdsman sword and 10% armor pen could help. Or just by fixind this sword low armor pen thing could make MC viable.

I was doing some testing a bit ago and interestingly you can actually use both axe and sword attacks when you dual wield a one-handed axe and a sword. I was able to use both raven's bite and sting and parry was still being applied to attacks, of course the damage is still pretty crappy even if you're using the woodsman's axe.

The issue with this though is that in most cases the weapon that is used is chosen by what was last equipped so for any attacks that can utilize both sword and axe it will use whichever weapon was put on last.

[stickman]

Combat needs to be balanced for 1 vs 1's. there are enough moves that we should have way more viable decks... but we dont because most of the moves are slow and cost to much IP... there should be a review of the moves that are not used on developed characters and they should be buffed until they do get used.

the current combat system will never be balanced for group fights and groups will adapt to any changes with the combat system anyway so i dont think it really needs to be considered for balancing.... if you removed cleave everyone would just switch to sting or ravens bite... everyone will just move to the next highest damage attack because group fights are all about 1 hitting people.

Skill in group combat doesn't seem to be about your ability to use skills on your bar, its about good positioning and running it seems.

to balance group fights the entire opening system would need to be removed or revamped.

[Kaios]

Also I am suspicious that maneuvers do not work correctly according to their description which is especially noticeable with Shield Up, its block weight is effected by melee combat * 250% * μ but μ is effected by the number of points in the maneuver which can no longer be raised beyond 1. However, the difference in block weight when using parry versus using shield up appears to be rather negligible with only a difference of 4 opening being reduced by Shield Up compared to Parry on the first punch.

[bmjclark]

Also I am suspicious that maneuvers do not work correctly according to their description which is especially noticeable with Shield Up, its block weight is effected by melee combat * 250% * μ but μ is effected by the number of points in the maneuver which can no longer be raised beyond 1. However, the difference in block weight when using parry versus using shield up appears to be rather negligible with only a difference of 4 opening being reduced by Shield Up compared to Parry on the first punch.

Defensive weight honestly doesn't do as much as you'd think it would. The maneuvers are working fine though.

[Kaios]

Defensive weight honestly doesn't do as much as you'd think it would. The maneuvers are working fine though.

That's interesting to know about too though, is it simply a diminishing return at higher block weights that causes them to be so insignificant between Shield Up and other maneuvers? If Shield Up's block weight is supposed to be calculated by melee combat * 2.5 * 1 and if melee combat = 400 wouldn't that be a block weight of 1000? Why does it seem like it's so much less than that?

[boshaw]

Defensive weight honestly doesn't do as much as you'd think it would. The maneuvers are working fine though.

That's interesting to know about too though, is it simply a diminishing return at higher block weights that causes them to be so insignificant between Shield Up and other maneuvers? If Shield Up's block weight is supposed to be calculated by melee combat * 2.5 * 1 and if melee combat = 400 wouldn't that be a block weight of 1000? Why does it seem like it's so much less than that?

It's just how the formula is. Either way the effectiveness of it should become a lot more apparent if your opponent's attack weight is greater than your defensive weight. The Attack opening % also is a factor as well as the % def left for your color.

[wonder-ass]

Defensive weight honestly doesn't do as much as you'd think it would. The maneuvers are working fine though.

That's interesting to know about too though, is it simply a diminishing return at higher block weights that causes them to be so insignificant between Shield Up and other maneuvers? If Shield Up's block weight is supposed to be calculated by melee combat * 2.5 * 1 and if melee combat = 400 wouldn't that be a block weight of 1000? Why does it seem like it's so much less than that?

when youre outstatted by a large margin that 250% is really helpful parry block weight 80% vs a guy with 2k ua against your own 800/1000 mc youll get stomped in to the ground.