Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Potjeh » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:01 am

For someone who brags how much they know about it you sure don't seem to be stating any actual facts and just waving vague statements around. Half the shit you listed you can't control so it's not something you should be concerned with. Just set up separate breeding pools per stat and combine pools when needed, and in each pool select the animals with the highest stat. If any of the females goes a full day without getting pregnant it means there's too many females for the male so you just split the pool into two. As for breeding q, it only needs to be equal or higher than the highest stat in the pool. More pools = more babies = higher chance to get a good roll. It's a simple heuristic, and overcomplicating it with mathematical formulas filled with variables you have no control over won't yield any practical results.
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:07 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:I STRONGLY suspect you've always just used intuition, made the wrong decision nearly every time, and gotten no feedback that your decision is wrong.


Potjeh wrote:overcomplicating it with mathematical formulas filled with variables you have no control over won't yield any practical results.



Holy shit it's like I can predict the future. You're not gonna believe this because you're too stupid to tell, but you're actually retarded, btw.

"I can only drastically raise the EV of this thing, I can't strictly control it so it doesn't exist"

like, actually holy shit dude I hope you're trolling
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Potjeh » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:13 am

Yeah, still not seeing any actual concrete facts come out of you. I've provided my algorithm, now let's see yours and mathematical proof that yours works better. I suspect you can't because it's imaginary like your mathematical friends, which would surely be able to figure out shit like the formula for FEPs in variable ingredient recipes and values for each recipe and ingredient. Let's hear what you got for that one if animal formula is too sacred to be shared with those not initiated into Adeptus Mechanicus.
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:30 am

Potjeh wrote:As for breeding q, it only needs to be equal or higher than the highest stat in the pool


I'm going to be very generous and assume you didn't mean what you said, you meant BQ = Q+20. This statement, without proofs, is still blatantly wrong enough to completely discredit you. You're sitting here saying a Q10/BQ200 animal is less valuable than Q11/BQ31 animal.

You're very clearly using intuition, not verifying if you're right, being wrong, then loudly saying it's trivially easy. Very cringe.
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Potjeh » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:39 am

Well no, high breeding q with no other good stats is useful in a pool dedicated to breeding Q.

But I am still seeing zero mathematical proofs from someone who harps on about how they did the math. So scientific, refusing to submit anything to peer reveiw. Just throwing out random shit like EV. Bruh, it's obvious that to get the best results you want a max number of females that a single male can handle, and it's obvious that if more than one female at a time is not pregnant you're over this max and need to reduce the herd size. And like what's this shit with multiple males in single pool? How can that produce better results than a separate pool for each male?

You are talking a lot of shit with absolutely nothing to back it up with.
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Audiosmurf » Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:52 am

Snail is a loudmouth pseud we're all in shock
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:03 am

I said I sim it, retard. I do not have a formula. You also do not have a formula, because it's too complicated for both of us, apparently... Which was my entire point.

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You're the one saying it's easy. If that were true you could whip it out of your ass in a few minutes.

(BTW, even on an intuitive level it should be pretty obvious multiple males often good, and male BQ being higher than necessary for the current generation to not be softcapped increases the chance of subsequent generations of males to not softcap by enough to offset non +20s)
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Potjeh » Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:13 am

Why the hell are you bringing up formulas in the first place? I said I have a simple heuristic, and I presented it. You prattled about formulas so I assumed you had one, but even if not you could post source code of your "complex" simulation.

How is it intuitive that multiple males in a single pool is good? You have more control if you put them each into separate pool and split the females.

And why not have a separate pool for breeding q? Seems suboptimal to select for two stats in a single pool. You can just focus on breeding for males and quality for females and just bet on inheriting quality from the female.
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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:26 am

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Re: Raising animal Q is just too much hassle

Postby Potjeh » Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:34 am

Astonishing argument.
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