safepali change

[TemuWarrior]

"this 16 minimap large village, that has ties to multiple factions, a realm 2-3 weeks into the world, and 141 people in their discord deserves new player protection"

brave and stunning

It's protection for pve'ers not new players. Pvp has legitimate uses like conflict resolution eg two villages fighting over a local resource. None of that applies here, you're just going out of your way to grief people who've done you no harm.

If you just wanna pvp then go fight felix ozzy or sheep, not a bunch of hermits who don't even have rage lol

snail fighting someone else than half naked hermits

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SnuggleSnail]

Pvp has legitimate uses like

PVP has a bunch of legitimate uses like [not realms]. Kinda makes me think there is no valid use for PVP and ur just gonna indefinitely move the goalpost

snail fighting someone else than half naked hermits

Usually the people who talk mad shit about somebody who's probably way better than them on an alt account have no idea what they're talking about, but you're actually kinda right this time. The PVP this world is so bad all the fighters quit. I have unironically not been in a single fight this world.

[Mr_Bober]

You should shift your point of view.
The issue is not the incentives to not buying rage. That's fine, rage should have drawbacks.
The issue is the lack of incentives to buy it.

Right now is "Being able to run through gates in combat" vs "Being able to attack other players off-claim".

So who needs that?
A. Griefers. Fuck them.
B. Realm owners. The rest of the villages in a realm don't usually care.
C. Those who want the meteor.

That's about it.
It's a very tiny % of the population.
I would have added siege, but we all know siege has been dead for a few worlds. Nobody really does that anymore.

We need more content related to PvP to make it worth getting rage.
Off the top of my head, a couple of things come to mind:
1. More meteor-like events. Unique resources (maybe even necessary for end-game content like lvl 9 minehole or some gear) that drag people to one spot to fight over it.
2. A complete rework of realms. Right now only the capital village does stuff for the realm. Every other village is passively in it, and most of the time doesn't really care if it's Realm A or Realm B owning the land, as there's no engagement with it.
3. Hot take: actual permadeath. No more ancestors, burials, and loss of KO protection. I think more people would engage in PvP if they knew killing their enemy would mean resetting their progress. With the current inheritance and stuff, what do they really lose? 10%? Not worth the effort.

That's just to make a point, which is: if you want more people to buy rage, make PvP more engaging and more useful.

[SnuggleSnail]

ye na I think they should just disable safepalis instead of coping they're magically going to going to execute some 700IQ flawless design that will never work in the real world



The second time they also did not have rage

[taurenshaman]

Just add new maneuver for melee when having rage or combat move.

[Kamekono]

Bro this is insanely shit. They have like 5 people in gear in their village. They seem to want to fight/stop me from bashing their shit, but they won't buy rage to do so, and I don't want to aggro them because there's no point in fighting 2ft from a safepali.

How is this not worse for everybody involved?

I might be wrong, but you can aggro people in your claim even without rage, can't you?
So the issue is either they didn't claim the stuff you're breaking, or they just didn't want to fight cause they fear they'd lose...

[SnuggleSnail]

It's a plot village with a lot of people. They probably just didn't have vandal perms on that particular plot.

[Luno]

Usually the people who talk mad shit about somebody who's probably way better than them on an alt account have no idea what they're talking about, but you're actually kinda right this time. The PVP this world is so bad all the fighters quit. I have unironically not been in a single fight this world.

Oppidia has never been so peaceful.
Some dude on Snekkja saw me almost drown while crossing a river and didn't aggro me.
I murdered someone very close and only 1 group of people showed up at our walls with gear, and only once.
And we are still on the continent we spawned in.
The people i have beaten have quit or moved away, the scents i leave behind are tracked by no one cause there is no pvper playing. xDDDDDDDD
I bet if i stepped outside the guys with gear might not even have rage.

[MightySheep]

Come on man, go fight some actual pvpers.

Other than ainran (who are impossible to gank because they have always been the most scared, cautious group in the game with alts everywhere etc) I can't name any village where people have rage. Even ainran is just a small group who don't do pvp. Pvp not really a thing anymore. Do u see anybody posting fights?

If u can tell me where I can go to aggro some1 that won't just run into a pali I'll go rn.

Rage change forced every1 into binary categories and every1 chose the safety option.

It's not like there's any incentive to do otherwise. Meteors don't exist and there's nothing else you get from pvp. In terms of siege getting rage would be a massive nerf to your ability to defend a siege.

[maze]

.... I can't name any village where people have rage. ....

I have rage, but it's fair to say you can't name my village.