P2P plan

Thoughts on the further development of Haven & Hearth? Feel free to opine!

Re: And so, a great era came to an end.

Postby Nikixos » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:50 am

mentalyll wrote:
Jackard wrote:ARK: Survival Evolved Free Weekend http://store.steampowered.com/app/346110/


Funniest shit ive seen in months

GG, mod, GG posting a link to a free game during the mass exodus

nigga you crayzee



PFF honestly, i would rather pay once for ARK, Tree of life, Rust, H1Z1 you name it, any of that is better than H&H's monthly sub

Denkar wrote:
Fichina wrote:Just a little tip: When you run a game for years that's free to play and can run on really outdated computers, you're going to accumulate a community with a lot of players who simply can't afford or run anything else. We're a nation of cyberhobos is what I'm saying here.

And what jorb and loftar are doing right now is getting rid of them. Of course they're gonna be mad, they've been squatting in the same abandoned building for years and they're getting kicked out. But it's only natural. You guys should be thankful jorb and loftar kept hosting the server and repairing the hard drives that kept crashing for so many years, for free.


The problem isn't that they want to get money, the problem is that the model they chose is obsolete and their product is not at the level of the current market.
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Free players can have great gameplay, here is how;

Postby earllohst » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:51 am

1. Band up with other free players, you will become closer and tight knit cause you all share the same limited time. No time for backstabbing or starting over or moving, etc.
2. Make a large town like Brodgar (lets call it freebies village) build roads, crossroads, and network reaching out to make it easier to find.
3. Make new alt every time you are low of energy (game time) and find freebies village.
4. Kin all your alts, share the claim. Make few alts for foraging, few for other thing, etc. Keep everything in your house protected in the large town.
5. Make a list of your accounts or alts so you could keep track which has how many energy left, which to play.
6. Your main toon is only online for eating and changing curio, 12 hours a month is enough to do this. You will save up enough time to use this toon for roaming or defending later on.
7. Because free players are limited in time, they are expected to work together more closely. This means a plot of 50x50 palisade can contain multiple players, and we don't need to build every facilities for single player like we used to (individual pali for every single house, individual anvil, etc.) Only need one facility even if you have 10 players just share, think office in real life we share our printers coffee machine, etc. This will save tremendous time and free time provided will be enough.
8. Amass wealth, trade the in game wealth for a 30-day game token from other player that is willing to do it. (I'm sure we have rich people that are lazy to forage. ;) )
9. Enjoy the added thrill, adventure, and management.


Secret techniques to play as long as paid players using free accounts:

30 days is 720 hours, 1 day is 24 hours, normal human need 10 hours sleep. So theres 14 hours left, but normal human needs to work too and eat, poop, etc. Lets assume the game time of normal human is 6 hours a day. (this is being generous alright because the average of human free time is much lower, if you play game 6 hour sstraight it would ruin your health and eye and lifestyle so dont argue on this number, not paying and not playing hafen might benefit you ¦] ) That is 180 hours a month for a paid players to play in one account with sub.

Free players can achieve 180 hours a month as well, just by logging in and out of 15 or more accounts(character). 15 x 12 hours = 180 hours.

I can guarantee you that paid players have alts as well and manage several accounts at the same time so yeah it doesn't matter too much.


Git strong like this:
You can do it with just 15 alts, feeding 1 monster character. That is manageable, And you don't need to log them all on!! You play one alt toon for 2 days, 6 hours each day (feed it measly for foraging or whatever purpose), and switch to your monster character quicky just to study and eat from cupboards. Come on how hard could it be? The only hard part is to collect all alts in one place which will be easier when we have global map up.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby SarcasticSoul » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:59 am

Guys. Have you actually seen the "Thanks for supporting" page after a payment is confirmed? If you mouse over the "gnomes" in the picture, you're treated to this:

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That looks like the sneaky face of a devtroll to me. I dunno about you guys.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Claeyttt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:04 am

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Thank god Salem is still free.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby krikke93 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:10 am

I wasn't planning on playing Haven again because I just didn't feel like playing it but I definitely wanted to follow the hype and all. Now that I see this shit, even I am mad at them. They ruined the best game I've ever played. Gj.
Why not just add cosmetics or make the game a one-time purchase. Why in godsname did you choose for a monthly payment method. Jesus christ guys.
You won't see me here again until that shit's gone.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby elpred0 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:37 am

I still cant belive this shit is for real.

Lets see in 3 days if its a joke or what. If not, see u devs change their mind, they will 4 sure.
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Re: Free players can have great gameplay, here is how;

Postby kitsune121x » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:37 am

sorry man it will not work they thought of that
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby paulmc » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:45 am

$15 a month? Who do you guys think you are, Blizzard? rofl

I wouldn't have minded paying a one-time fee of $15 or so. Hell, I might have even contemplated going along with a modest monthly fee if it meant that some of that money would be put towards sustained development and updates.
Way to totally blindside us though.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby Gacrux » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:46 am

elpred0 wrote:I still cant belive this shit is for real.

Lets see in 3 days if its a joke or what. If not, see u devs change their mind, they will 4 sure.


Jorb has already gone on record to say it is subject to change.
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Re: Pay 2 Play

Postby jtpitner » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:48 am

LadyApollo wrote:Let me ask you guys a question, wouldn't be better if, instead of this Pay 2 Play model, wouldn't be better if it were a Pay 2 Win model?
A premium account system that would have some advantages over the free one, costumes, an account chest, xp bonus and all that shit that we always live with in another games?

I would pay for something like this! And my friends won't have to and would still be able to play with me!

I could accept even a paying method to recover dead characters!

The major problem with this system is that you're probably going to pay to play alone.




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