P2P plan

[Whiteyzz]

1. Band up with free players to the point you might be able to deal 1 damage to someone who pays.
2. Never be wanted because you don't pay and you're only one for at most 12 hours a month.
3. Get constantly murder as no one wants a freebie, because you will be useless with only 12 hours a month play time.
4. Never find your kins ever because the world is fucking large unless you get a lucky spawn.
5-7. Fuuuun!.
8. Or this player since he has more time, stats and everything crushes your base and takes what he wants with 2 of his pay buddies,
9. Don't tell anyone about this till the day you watch, cause video game Seppuku.

[earllohst]

sorry man it will not work they thought of that

You can't dismiss an idea before trying it first.

[Brás]

Here's an idea: Group and kill all paying players. Oh wait, you can't do that! You can only play 12h a MONTH.

[loic71]

I hope Jorb and Loftar will give us back free to play haven!

[earllohst]

1. Band up with free players to the point you might be able to deal 1 damage to someone who pays.
2. Never be wanted because you don't pay and you're only one for at most 12 hours a month.
3. Get constantly murder as no one wants a freebie, because you will be useless with only 12 hours a month play time.
4. Never find your kins ever because the world is fucking large unless you get a lucky spawn.
5-7. Fuuuun!.
8. Or this player since he has more time, stats and everything crushes your base and takes what he wants with 2 of his pay buddies,
9. Don't tell anyone about this till the day you watch, cause video game Seppuku.

1-9 You are assuming this based on previous haven and the new haven have different mechanic and gameplay so what you experience or think would happen may not happen, one major thing is that you can't be sniped behind wall this helps free players a lot. However weak you are if you don't fight them head on you won't die.

2. You are wanted by other free players because you all share the same "one for at most 12 hours a month"
Don't forget that there is no rule stating you can only have one account, if you play 6 toons you have 72 hours per month that is 2.4 hours of gameplay per day.

3. You won't be murdered if you keep your main behind walls and scout your walls for rams. They can't snipe you thru wall. Whatever stat they got they still need to use ram and come close to you.

4. The concept of working together doesn't mean working together with your real life group but partying with your nearby players.

8. Again a demigod toon still need to get in front of you to murder you. Behind wall you are immune, wall needs ram to break through.

People know free players have less time and there isn't much to loot so why bother? You are not the main target here, other paid players are, and paid players want you guys to join their group to fight other paid groups, does this make sense?

[Dallane]

I don't understand why everyone is so mad lol. This is awesome. Support the devs, get them motivated to improve the game and push out more updates. We have been enjoying this game for FREE for the last 7 years! The fuck is wrong with you guys.

TIL 15$ breaks the bank.

[Headshot]

Well. seriously. Game price is too high for Russan community (not for all, but for a big part of) because of $ exchange course. Just notice.
Even wow and eve online prices are lower.

[Nikixos]

I don't understand why everyone is so mad lol. This is awesome. Support the devs, get them motivated to improve the game and push out more updates. We have been enjoying this game for FREE for the last 7 years! The fuck is wrong with you guys.

TIL 15$ breaks the bank.

Because suscription model is retard. Do you want proofs? Just google all the mmos going from pay to play to Cash Shop
Even if you keep pay to play you can't expect anyone to pay the price of a AAA MMO with haven.

[earllohst]

Here's an idea: Group and kill all paying players. Oh wait, you can't do that! You can only play 12h a MONTH.

12h a month for one character/account. So if you multiply your number of toons you have unlimited game time.
Force feed and force study one main toon and he can get as strong as paid toon.

Those paying members are humans too they can only stay awake and play as much as you do, they need to eat, sleep, everything else.

Simple math really;

30 days is 720 hours, 1 day is 24 hours, normal human need 10 hours sleep. So theres 14 hours left, but normal human needs to work too and eat, poop, etc. Lets assume the game time of normal human is 6 hours a day. (this is being generous alright because the average of human free time is much lower, if you play game 6 hour sstraight it would ruin your health and eye and lifestyle so dont argue on this number, not paying and not playing hafen might benefit you ) That is 180 hours a month for a paid players to play in one account with sub.

Free players can achieve 180 hours a month as well, just buy logging in and out of 15 accounts. 15 x 12 hours = 180 hours.

I can guarantee you that paid players have alts as well and manage several accounts at the same time.

Do you think people train a battle character by having them logged on all the time? No they stay behind walls, get feeded, and used only when needed.

[spawningmink]

im sure most people agree....we spent most of our time waiting for this game to come out...years to months, months to weeks, weeks to hours, hours to minuets, minuets to seconds....at one point you had nearly 2k people clicking refresh on the page hoping to get into the game......until someone noticed the store button. im sure atleast 80% of the people today took time off something be it work, studying, sports or any other thing they had planed. i even took work off, and as a 16 year old kid who only gets 3 shifts a week that counts for a lot. i dont think you understand what youve done with this game, it went from 2k people down to 700 in the first 1.5 hours. your taking this game and driving it into the ground. im sure many people dont want to pay monthly for a game like this, who knows maybe some do but most people iv spoken to surely dont. we all love you as the devs but if this is how this game is turning out then you can expect 600 of the 700 players to leave by the time of the free month is done. id be more then happy to make one payment to be able to play this game and im sure about 1000 others would be as well. but please dont make us pay money per month. do you really want this game to turn into another ghost town?


this is a serious topic so id like to hear what everyone else has to say about having to pay every month, if the mods could clean up any derailing that would be great and i hope our devs take a look at this and maybe rethink.


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