Types of Punishments for Botting

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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby APXEOLOG » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:40 am

Potjeh wrote:Do you even bow? You can hold a filled aimbar indefinitely.

Maybe. I'm not playing for months. But let's return to the start of our discussion. You've told me that there was a case of archer bot camping crossroad. So how many archers were used? How many people they've killed? How do you realise that this is bots and not people? (because, you now, if you jump 2 times in 24 hours and both times you saw archers it doesn't mean they were there for 24 hours)
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:45 am

TBF I didn't see it used on roads, but it seems like the logical next step. What I saw was a video of people setting up a bot gank squad (by their own admission) just inside a cave entrance, using 4-5 throwaway archer alts. All I saw was their test on their own character, and it was instant KO even with armor, no way could the client have loaded the area. The only reason we haven't seen widespread use of these is dead game.
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby APXEOLOG » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:07 am

Potjeh wrote:TBF I didn't see it used on roads, but it seems like the logical next step

I prefer to work with facts. The ideas of such bots were even in W5, when the massive botting starts. But for many years such bots were not created (or at least used). Of course, we can worry about it, or worry about huge meteor which will destroy Earth, but, honestly, don't we have another problems? I just want to make people understand, that 99% of the reason they hate bots is envy.

I have one good story. Some years ago, when Valve introduced Steam Community Market (Steam platform, i hope you know it), many people sell their items for the very low price, because they were too lazy to find the actual price by searching current item offers in the Market. Of course some people (me too) created bots, which bought such items and then sell it with normal current price. And you know what was the reaction of the community? They said: "Ban bots please, because we cannot buy such low-cost items by ourselves, bots are too fast". They didn't want to remove stupidly low prices, they wanted to cash in. This is the perfect example that people are greedy bastards and hate bots because they cannot use them
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Kalacia » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:30 am

stya wrote:
Pan_w_okularach wrote:the way how all the botters are freaking out and getting super defensive in this thread proves that we're on the right track with the OP's suggestion
- b-b-but... you can't always tell a bot from a legit player!
- then why are so scared?
:)


That kind of thread just proves how dumb most people are, it's like the 1 000 000th thread about it, the answers for the whole thing exist already and no one cares, no one reads, no one understands... yeah it's easier to keep posting more threads about it. The "you can't tell part" is not a problem for botters, it is for legit players who will be nuked for no reason since there is no revive.


Thank you. Somebody gets my point.
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Pan_w_okularach » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:15 pm

you don't understand... it's comlicated... it has been discussed... trust me...
yeah we get it
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Kalacia » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:57 pm

Pan_w_okularach wrote:you don't understand... it's comlicated... it has been discussed... trust me...
yeah we get it


Clearly not, as it's still being discussed :)
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Avu » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:27 pm

APXEOLOG wrote:
Potjeh wrote:TBF I didn't see it used on roads, but it seems like the logical next step

I prefer to work with facts. The ideas of such bots were even in W5, when the massive botting starts. But for many years such bots were not created (or at least used). Of course, we can worry about it, or worry about huge meteor which will destroy Earth, but, honestly, don't we have another problems? I just want to make people understand, that 99% of the reason they hate bots is envy.

I have one good story. Some years ago, when Valve introduced Steam Community Market (Steam platform, i hope you know it), many people sell their items for the very low price, because they were too lazy to find the actual price by searching current item offers in the Market. Of course some people (me too) created bots, which bought such items and then sell it with normal current price. And you know what was the reaction of the community? They said: "Ban bots please, because we cannot buy such low-cost items by ourselves, bots are too fast". They didn't want to remove stupidly low prices, they wanted to cash in. This is the perfect example that people are greedy bastards and hate bots because they cannot use them


So you're ok with being the only one abusing/exploiting mechanics and everyone who cries that you suck must be envious. You clearly are not a greedy bastard botting your merry way into item flipping for profit. No it's all the envious scrubs without bots that are to blame. If only they worked hard and exploited like you exploited they could be rich too. Damn plebs. Golden rule? Kants categorical imperative? Morality do you speak it? I bet not.
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:53 pm

Clearly the idea of sportsmanship is totally lost on him. Reminds me of them kiddies that play FPS-es with wallhacks and aimbots and think that somehow makes them better players rather than worse.
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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Kaios » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:55 pm

APXEOLOG wrote:Auto-curio client feature is botting too. Nuke everyone starting from now. Also, how can you differ bot from a person who does it manually?


You'd probably be quite surprised how many people really don't make use of this. Obviously I can't say I know for sure but I can tell you that I only made use of auto curio one time over the entire course of this world and didn't do it again after because I just couldn't be bothered to make the curios and get the XP. I guess that's something your bots would have helped you with too, though. ;)

APXEOLOG wrote:I just want to make people understand, that 99% of the reason they hate bots is envy


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Re: Types of Punishments for Botting

Postby Avu » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:12 pm

I've used autocurio and I explained why you have to in order to stay competitive. If it becomes ban worthy I will be the first to be happy over it.
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