Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby mietzi94 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:31 pm

boreial wrote:Also, if you are earning sooo little how are you affording a computer and internet connection to be playing games anyways??


Was wondering about that too. Also there are a lot of countries in europe who have lower average income than russia. Serbia, Czech Republic, Ukraine etc. Poland is only slightly above.

And thats just a few from europe. Dont even want to mention Asian and South American countries. Its like giving a discount for the whole world except a few countries.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby Avu » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:34 pm

Best suggestion was increase prices for the west everyone is happy then!
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby shubla » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:34 pm

Avu wrote:Best suggestion was increase prices for the west everyone is happy then!

Hey, a good idea
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby Granger » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:53 pm

shubla wrote:Give russians discount. Ignore people that have different opinions.
Eventually they will get tired of complaining.

Then we should start with the russians by not giving them (or anyone else) discounts.
In case you're so poor that you can't spend $7/month on a game they you have different (and more pressing) problems and we shouldn't distract you with a game from solving them.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby VasilyM » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:57 pm

Most people in russia have salary about 200$ per month. WIth a 100$ is a minimum cost for renting a room.
Basic salary for not qualified workers in Moscow is about less than 300$ with 200$ minimum for rent a living space (ussualy some dirty hole and u spend about 3 hrs a day for get to the job and back, sometimes more).
Not bad salary is 600-800$ - and if you work on such a job you really need a better place to live and pay 300-350$ for it.
So, maybe i can pay 15$ one time because i REALLY love this game and it something like a samurai sword - i can wear old cloth, eat bad food, but i pay most of my money for it because its only thing in my life that really has a value. But I cant pay even 7$ for subscription, so how i can fight with ppl who can pay with no any problem for really big advantage? Devs should think about how to make engone closer to reality, and if they dont like that big national fraction get some advantage because of it its better to think about give players more ingame methods to balace this by themselves if they want. And really think about minimize cheating like bots and bugs etc...
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby VDZ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:58 pm

mietzi94 wrote:
boreial wrote:Also, if you are earning sooo little how are you affording a computer and internet connection to be playing games anyways??


Was wondering about that too.


Americans spotted.

Price of goods and especially services in a country tends to increase and decrease based on income of its citizens. In countries where people barely earn any money, goods (including computers) and services (including internet) tend to cost barely any money (by Western standards). They will generally have lower specs PCs and slower internet than we have here, but they can buy it at prices affordable to them. (Notable exceptions include import items; iPads for example (as a specific item made only by one company that happens to be located in the US) still tend to be very expensive in poor countries.)

As such, people in such countries are able to afford more than you'd think based on the amount of money they have, but when buying goods and services from other countries (such as a H&H subscription), the prices aren't adjusted for their country, meaning their 150 dollars actually counts as 150 dollars.

shubla wrote:Eventually they will get tired of complaining.


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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby shubla » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:58 pm

Granger wrote:
shubla wrote:Give russians discount. Ignore people that have different opinions.
Eventually they will get tired of complaining.

Then we should start with the russians by not giving them (or anyone else) discounts.
In case you're so poor that you can't spend $7/month on a game they you different (and more pressing) problems and we shouldn't distract you with a game from solving them.

7$ a month is a lot for some russian guy.
We can compare it by average salaries.
Imagine that HnH subscription would be instead of 10 usd/month
55 usd / month.
Feels ok for a game like hnh? I dont think so.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby VasilyM » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:04 pm

Granger wrote:
shubla wrote:Give russians discount. Ignore people that have different opinions.
Eventually they will get tired of complaining.

Then we should start with the russians by not giving them (or anyone else) discounts.
In case you're so poor that you can't spend $7/month on a game they you have different (and more pressing) problems and we shouldn't distract you with a game from solving them.


Vodka is 3$ for a 0.5 liter. You cant solve your problem if problem is your country.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby Granger » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:09 pm

You're like a sheepherder complaining that he can't afford a dubai top-notch hotel so he turns to demanding that they should lower their prices for him.

Can't pay? Play for free and be happy that Jorb and Loftar offer this to you.

Should free not be good enough for you:
Stop behaving like a spoild brat that is deluded into thinking of being entitled to getting sugar blown up his ass on a daily basis.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

Postby shubla » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:12 pm

VasilyM wrote:
Granger wrote:
shubla wrote:Give russians discount. Ignore people that have different opinions.
Eventually they will get tired of complaining.

Then we should start with the russians by not giving them (or anyone else) discounts.
In case you're so poor that you can't spend $7/month on a game they you have different (and more pressing) problems and we shouldn't distract you with a game from solving them.


Vodka is 3$ for a 0.5 liter. You cant solve your problem if problem is your country.

But salaries are also 1/5 of what it would be in the USA.

With some googling, some cheap vodka in us is like 6 dollars for ½ liter.
Average income in us is 5 times as much. So basically vodka is cheaper in usa.

People are dumb.
10 dollars is a variable amount of money depending on where you live.
I think big mac index could give you direction if you dont know.
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