no-death pvp has made things WORSE

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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby jorb » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:17 pm

Bowshot125 wrote:Bump.

Remove placing leeches on KO'd players, just had a village mate quit and vanish due to it. The KO system doesn't even work till you do so.


How so, though? You can easily drop any leeches on you before they do any damage, right?
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby NOOBY93 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:24 pm

jorb wrote:
Bowshot125 wrote:Bump.

Remove placing leeches on KO'd players, just had a village mate quit and vanish due to it. The KO system doesn't even work till you do so.


How so, though? You can easily drop any leeches on you before they do any damage, right?

Not if you are KO'd you can't
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby blank » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
jorb wrote:
Bowshot125 wrote:Bump.

Remove placing leeches on KO'd players, just had a village mate quit and vanish due to it. The KO system doesn't even work till you do so.


How so, though? You can easily drop any leeches on you before they do any damage, right?

Not if you are KO'd you can't


Cant do anything while KOed and that gives the leeches plenty of time to do damage
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:50 pm

Worth noting that we're not really talking about Q10 leeches. People quality pump leeches to increase the damage they deal.

Simplest fix is to make it so that you can't equip things to a KOed hearthling. It's not a huge limitation and it solves the issue.
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby jorb » Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:21 pm

Does it? From looking at the code there should be a relatively low chance that the leeches have time to deal damage before the target wakes up?

Not if you're absolutely swamped in them, perhaps...?

I realize that the quality is higher than Q10.
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby jordancoles » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:09 pm

Sevenless wrote:Simplest fix is to make it so that you can't equip things to a KOed hearthling. It's not a huge limitation and it solves the issue

UNACCEPTABLE SOLUTION

How else would we put silly hats on our victims?
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:15 pm

jordancoles wrote:How else would we put silly hats on our victims?


GAME BREAKING, HOW COULD I PLAY?!?!?! WHY DID I EVEN SUGGEST IT!1!!
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby NOOBY93 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:40 pm

Not be able to put leeches on other people, only on yourself. Problem solved
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby jordancoles » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:47 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:Not be able to put leeches on other people, only on yourself. Problem solved

Then what is the point of leeches ?

Let me put them on boars and bears in that case ¦]
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Re: no-death pvp has made things WORSE

Postby NOOBY93 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:48 pm

jordancoles wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:Not be able to put leeches on other people, only on yourself. Problem solved

Then what is the point of leeches ?

Let me put them on boars and bears in that case ¦]

Self harm if your hearthling is depressed

Also when you're visitor debuffed + red handed the only way to go back home without waiting out the red handed is KOing yourself with leeches then porting
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