Nerf Ranger's Bow

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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:12 am

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Sorry, I haven't done much PVP at the high end, so I didn't know
1) 150*sqrt(sqrt(3000*30000)/10)*1.5 =! 6930
2) People had over two million strength;
3) Q3k B12s were common among PVPers;
4) As long as you can 1 hit somebody at full openings, more damage is irrelevant.

Since we're going a tad off topic, I apologize for being misinformed and shall move on.


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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby wonder-ass » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:17 am

ctopolon4 wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:
20k cleaves

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150 * sqrt(sqrt(30000*3000)/10) * 150% = 150 * 30.1 * 1.5 = 6.75k (dont matter, its more than everyone have hp+armor)


someone got cleaved at 100blue in my video and survived its harder than you think to kill someone with a cleave lol.
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:12 am

ctopolon4 wrote:even ull try hard and get nice stats for mm, ull deal 1-2 shots (with good aim) for 1500dmg, and 1499 will be consumed by armor, and ull deal 1 hp dmg to 1of3 attackers ¦] after that ull be run until water ends or get stuck or safe pali.

Stop your blatant fucking lying
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby ctopolon4 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:39 am

wonder-ass wrote:someone got cleaved at 100blue in my video and survived its harder than you think to kill someone with a cleave lol.

100blue = 50% dmg multiplier (6000*.5=3000 I do not claim that there are no people with 2-3k hp)
im sayng that here is huge gap between nerds and casuals
nerds have 6k dmg and 6k+ hp+armor
casuals have 2k dmg and 2k+ hp+armor
as result: nerds could 1SHOT! casuals(and dont matter rbow or b12 ). not many wanting to meet titans party. not many plays PvP. not many plays at all
no one wanna be oneshoted... even nerds with b12 cry when them have chance to die from rbow and they cant change nothing
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:58 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:ITT people who have never pvp'd try to balance pvp


You've overestimated. They won't even go cleave a fox with their stone axe to figure out vaguely how openings works
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby Ardennesss » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:36 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:100blue = 50% dmg multiplier
Does it take effort to be wrong about literally everything you talk about, or is it an acquired skill that comes naturally at this point?
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby ctopolon4 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:53 pm

if move uses 2 colors: 100 100 = 100% ; 0 100 = 50% ; 50 50 = 50%. am i wrong?
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby svino » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:15 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:if move uses 2 colors: 100 100 = 100% ; 0 100 = 50% ; 50 50 = 50%. am i wrong?


yes... if any opening matching the attack is 100% you deal 100% damage

jorb wrote:The base damage of an attack, modified by the strength bonus, is multiplied with the square of the Opening, to determine final damage. Example: A red attack, with a total damage of 50, hits a target with 50% "Cornered" opening. The target takes 50 * (0.5 * 0.5) = 12.5 points of damage. Had the target instead been 60% "Cornered", it would have taken 50 * (0.6 * 0.6) = 18 points of damage.

If there are multiple openings matching the attack -- many attacks target more than one attack dimension -- the inverse of these are multiplied to determine the product to be squared to determine the final damage. Example: A yellow and blue attack, with a total damage of 50, hits a target with 30% "Reeling", and 50% "Dizzy", that is the yellow and blue openings respectively. The total amount of matching Openings are thus 1 - ((1 - 0.3) * (1 - 0.5)) = 0.65, and the target takes 50 * (0.65 * 0.65) = 21.125 points of damage.
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby dafels » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:13 pm

I guess a good nerf , but the bow still would remain decent, you shouldnt be able to hit targets that are moving or give it a huge chance of missing if shot at a moving target
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Re: Nerf Ranger's Bow

Postby SnuggleSnail » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:48 pm

I rly don't wanna play in a ranger bow meta.
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