Please unfuck food/recipes

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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby Procne » Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:26 pm

Massa wrote:the
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I wouldn't mind the discovery itself if not for the fact that there's too much to remember and you have to play with a spreadsheet to first make the discovery and then to actualy use its outcome
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby sMartins » Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:50 pm

We want a cookbook! :)
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby The_Blode » Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:36 pm

jorb wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:The average player does not enjoy feeling like their time is being wasted.


Are you implying that I should apply the general rule that things which make the AVERAGE PLAYER feel like they WASTED THEIR TIME should be REMOVED FROM THE GAME?

There is one "feature" of the game that I get more complaints about than food, TBPQH, senpai-fam. ^^


Jorb can we have some more early game Psyche food? I'm dying here fampai jabroni
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby VDZ » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:20 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:Within 5 minutes he was able to explain every important detail: "eat meatpies with pork and cheese, drink wine, buy a good table, and pepper everything." That was literally it.


I was able to get stats that were competitive at the faction level as a hermit within a month or two.

How the fuck do you get faction-competitive quantities of pork, cheese and pepper as a hermit?
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby telum12 » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:34 pm

VDZ wrote:
SnuggleSnail wrote:Within 5 minutes he was able to explain every important detail: "eat meatpies with pork and cheese, drink wine, buy a good table, and pepper everything." That was literally it.


I was able to get stats that were competitive at the faction level as a hermit within a month or two.

How the fuck do you get faction-competitive quantities of pork, cheese and pepper as a hermit?


He said this is how it *used* to be. Did you not read the thread?

Also you do that by breeding pigs etc.
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby icepie » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:14 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:I'm not upset that I need to solve this. I don't. I have 200 client features and ~15 friends I play with to do it for me.

I spend nearly all of my playtime raiding retards like you, and based on my extensive going-through-other-people's-things experience 90% of the people posting in this thread are eating foods that are like 10-20% as effective as what I'm eating.

I literally just want the game to be easy enough to get into that some more people who like PVP will play it. Some of the shit I say on the forum is subjective, obviously, but the need to search through literal millions of recipes before you can even start to rly play the game or know what to do being bad isn't a subjective opinion. It's objectively dumb.

It's not even a system you can meaningfully interact with as a human. It literally requires machines to interact with. So fucking stupid.


If you want more people to be able to put up a fight, why don't you nurture the community instead of griefing hermits? Why are you killing random players and looking through their cupboards instead of offering advice? Why do you keep your client to yourself? Noobs getting killed and griefed is a HUGE reason more people aren't getting into this game. I think it's a much bigger deal than any perceived feel-bads about eating non optimal food. Most noobs genuinely don't know or even care about hunger & FEP efficiency let alone variable material ingredient recipes.

Also I think we all know this, but this is not a very fun game for people who actually like pvp. There's very little room for player skill to shine past the difference in player stats and equipment quality.
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby telum12 » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:44 pm

icepie wrote:If you want more people to be able to put up a fight, why don't you nurture the community instead of griefing hermits? Why are you killing random players and looking through their cupboards instead of offering advice? Why do you keep your client to yourself? Noobs getting killed and griefed is a HUGE reason more people aren't getting into this game. I think it's a much bigger deal than any perceived feel-bads about eating non optimal food. Most noobs genuinely don't know or even care about hunger & FEP efficiency let alone variable material ingredient recipes.


Snail has no responsibility for nurturing the community. No one does.

90% of the people who know how to PvP will unironically teach & help you if you ask, have some basic social skills and aren't cringe about it

Snail does not own or develop the client for his village. The people that do have no responsibility to release it & deal with all the work that comes with maintaining a public one.

You can't get killed or griefed unless you do really fucking dumb shit, and even if you do it's not as bad as people think.

icepie wrote:Also I think we all know this, but this is not a very fun game for people who actually like pvp. There's very little room for player skill to shine past the difference in player stats and equipment quality.


Then why do people who are good at PvP keep KO'ing people with higher stats. Oh wait, it's because you're a dumb-ass.
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby DonVelD » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:56 pm

icepie wrote:If you want more people to be able to put up a fight, why don't you nurture the community instead of griefing hermits? Why are you killing random players and looking through their cupboards instead of offering advice? Why do you keep your client to yourself? Noobs getting killed and griefed is a HUGE reason more people aren't getting into this game. I think it's a much bigger deal than any perceived feel-bads about eating non optimal food. Most noobs genuinely don't know or even care about hunger & FEP efficiency let alone variable material ingredient recipes.

Also I think we all know this, but this is not a very fun game for people who actually like pvp. There's very little room for player skill to shine past the difference in player stats and equipment quality.


This is why you tards are eternal sprucecaps, you wait for some divine intervention to suddenly make you a good player instead of trying to do it yourself and persisting. And people think they deserve pity because of it.
No one should babysit you. Period. I've been shit on in the past and I'm learning ever since, all by myself. Sure, people shared tips with me and I did that to others too, but most of the times YOU are the reason YOU get good. The skill matters the most but people love to blame their problems on stats & client features. Git gud.
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby icepie » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:57 pm

telum12 wrote:Snail has no responsibility for nurturing the community. No one does.

I know. You're not obligated to help people, release a client, or even be a nice person at all. I'm just asking why you wouldn't if your goal was to get more people to enjoy the game

telum12 wrote:Then why do people who are good at PvP keep KO'ing people with higher stats. Oh wait, it's because you're a dumb-ass.

You're just big fish in a small pond man. Where does player skill matter, aside from knowing the right buttons to press in what order? That's something a flowchart could do.
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Re: Please unfuck food/recipes

Postby icepie » Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:05 pm

DonVelD wrote:This is why you tards are eternal sprucecaps, you wait for some divine intervention to suddenly make you a good player instead of trying to do it yourself and persisting. And people think they deserve pity because of it.
No one should babysit you. Period. I've been shit on in the past and I'm learning ever since, all by myself. Sure, people shared tips with me and I did that to others too, but most of the times YOU are the reason YOU get good. The skill matters the most but people love to blame their problems on stats & client features. Git gud.


Why are you so hostile? I never said anybody owes me or anybody else a damn thing. I literally just asked why wouldn't you be nicer if you want more people to play your game.
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