P2P plan

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Re: P2P plan

Postby Temessis » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:36 pm

burgingham wrote:Game is amazing.

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So what the hell is that? This is freaking me out :shock:

hultongetty wrote:I will be really mad if it will lag.


You will :3
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Moozy » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:37 pm

I'm still not sure if the store is fake or not, but considering that the store and Pay 2 Play thing was implemented in a rather shady way, I might not touch this game whatsoever.
Was thinking about donating to the creator dudes aswell, but if they're not gonna be straight with their fans & customers, I recon we shouldn't be straight with them.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby burgingham » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:37 pm

rezal wrote:And your opinion has nothing to do with your status on the forum I assume. ;)



Ok once more for the really slow ones: We are not working for the devs, do not get paid by them and did not get any special treatment beforehand. I knew as little about the game as you.

I was inactive for years and some of us mods have been the biggest critics towards the devs in the past. I am just voicing my own opinion here. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby hultongetty » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:42 pm

But you mean it lags (server overloaded) or you are talking about FPS drops?
I dont care about server lags, Im OK even if the ping will be 500 :d
But FPS drops will kill me.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby burgingham » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:43 pm

As long as the server was up it ran pretty smooth. It's just bugs that are crashing it.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby ancara23 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Wake up just now, and can see over 30 or so-ish new pages here. Yup, can tell that a ton of people either are legit angered as hell over this system from outta nowhere, or just seem to want things to stop going crazy. Some even have posted ways to perhaps get things better in a way that doesn't make a majority of people leave in about 2 days from now and doesn't destroy the cred the devs have left currently.

Still, based on where this thread is, and where it's positioned, and how everything related to this very big thing was pushed into only one thread allowed period, I'm worried about something here: Are the devs even reading these posts or seeing how concerned a lot of people are about it all? Or did they just have it moved all to this one spot so they can ignore it because they don't want to change it period or do squat because money? I mean no disrespect to the mods, or to the devs at all, but when a majority of time since H&H2 came out has been filled with people either complaining about the new system of payment, a dumb amount of bugs and issues that goofed up the game so hard a delay probably would have been better and is also making said payment system a lot less desirable, and also full of other dumb things and also hostile attitudes (both with players vs the new system, and other things best not said due to reasons), then even I can tell when there's a huge-ass problem happening here.

I have no idea at all what responses I'll get, or what'll happen, but I can at least say this: Hopefully whatever answer the devs give later on will be one that's reasonable and makes sense, and doesn't make the community implode. After all, people aren't exactly good at forgiving bad choices or especially dumb things on the net. Trust me, it destroyed a ton of hype for Starbound after how bad that went, and I hope this game doesn't suffer that fate too.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby burgingham » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:50 pm

The devs are aware of the criticism. You people just did an aweful job of voicing your demands in a reasonable way especially in the first hours after launch. So they are a little disappointed.

As they have stated multiple times now (seriously just filter the forum for their posts, you can do that yourself...) they will be following a wait and see strategy for osme time now and then decide if anything needs to be changed with the payment model.

Also, as usual it is a very loud minority raging on the forums. Most people I am in contact with are completely fine with the payment model. It is 6-10$ a month, that is ok for a game that has a lot more potential than any AAA title. They just need to step up their game in terms of service (server stability etc. are a must now) and we are good.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby kemil88 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:18 pm

burgingham wrote:...a game that has a lot more potential than any AAA title...


Really? Are you crazy? Sorry if I look offensive, but really...a game with arround 1000 active players should have a lot more potential than any AAA title? I don't like FF14 but I'd give it a try if it was not p2p, I love F2P games with a vanity item shop, and a lot of P2P games are becoming F2P with a vanity item shop, but yeah, this game should have a lot more potential than The Elder Scrolls Online, Final Fantasy 14 or ANY other P2P game...yeah, if you say so...(As I already said, FF14 monthly fee is 9.99$, the same as this game)
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Re: P2P plan

Postby fishlord123 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:19 pm

edit : i was a dick
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Re: P2P plan

Postby burgingham » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:24 pm

kemil88 wrote:
burgingham wrote:...a game that has a lot more potential than any AAA title...


Really? Are you crazy? Sorry if I look offensive, but really...a game with arround 1000 active players should have a lot more potential than any AAA title? I don't like FF14 but I'd give it a try if it was not p2p, I love F2P games with a vanity item shop, and a lot of P2P games are becoming F2P with a vanity item shop, but yeah, this game should have a lot more potential than The Elder Scrolls Online, Final Fantasy 14 or ANY other P2P game...yeah, if you say so...(As I already said, FF14 monthly fee is 9.99$, the same as this game)


Yes, I am serious. Millions of people playing a game is usually the best indicator that it is bad btw.
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