P2P plan

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Re: P2P plan

Postby kemil88 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:58 pm

jorb wrote:
Burzan wrote:
jorb wrote:I mean.... I'd love to have 99% uptime and fix bugs instantly. That requires resources, though, for which reason we are asking our players to provide us with some of those.

I would have been more than happy to had you not just pulled this shit out of the blue. There was no need for secrecy.
And I know English isn't your first language, but please learn the difference between "asking" and "demanding".


There was no secrecy. We just didn't tell you. There's a difference. Also, what difference does it really make? Whenever we told you it would still now be the 29th of August, and you'd be in the same spot you are now.

Also, if you expect me to entertain a civil discussion with you about anything then you need to step up your game.

Did you see my post, can you answer it?
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Re: P2P plan

Postby jorb » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:00 pm

kemil88 wrote:And a question, if someone buy 1 year of playtime and then they make the game F2P with microtransations, will they refound him/her?


We have no intention ot make the game F2P with microtransactions, if you don't count what is already in as precisely that.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Moozy » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:01 pm

jorb wrote:
Burzan wrote:
jorb wrote:I mean.... I'd love to have 99% uptime and fix bugs instantly. That requires resources, though, for which reason we are asking our players to provide us with some of those.

I would have been more than happy to had you not just pulled this shit out of the blue. There was no need for secrecy.
And I know English isn't your first language, but please learn the difference between "asking" and "demanding".


There was no secrecy. We just didn't tell you. There's a difference. Also, what difference does it really make? Whenever we told you it would still now be the 29th of August, and you'd be in the same spot you are now.

Also, if you expect me to entertain a civil discussion with you about anything then you need to step up your game.


Ofcourse there was secrecy, you straight out pulled a Pay 2 Play system in the last minute. People aren't raging cuzz you did that, people are raging because you did it in the last minute like it was somesort of 'Grand Surprise'
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Re: P2P plan

Postby kemil88 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:01 pm

jorb wrote:
kemil88 wrote:And a question, if someone buy 1 year of playtime and then they make the game F2P with microtransations, will they refound him/her?


We have no intention ot make the game F2P with microtransactions, if you don't count what is already in as precisely that.

I think you will do it, when you will see that the game will have about 50 active players instead of 2000
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Re: P2P plan

Postby jimrod » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:02 pm

I think a speak on the better half of people when i say a lot of us would just rather pay a small amount to simply have old HnH back. The game was honestly damn near perfect how it was, especially the graphics imo. We do understand you guys hard work
The Brodgarwalder Shwarzhanden im really interested in seeing this take off. Players who are interested in combat but that want to fight the good fight and not necesarilly be part of any town except for alliance could hopefully be interested. Basically Nomadic Ranging/Combat SPecialists helping those in need and heelping to forge new alliances.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby hultongetty » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:03 pm

WOW!
The game itself is AWESOME!
The sound effects are AW ES OM E!!!!!!!
But do somenthing with theese lags... Its not even server fault. The game is just not optimized...

I cant play this way :<
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Re: P2P plan

Postby jorb » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:05 pm

Moozy wrote:Ofcourse there was secrecy, you straight out pulled a Pay 2 Play system in the last minute. People aren't raging cuzz you did that, people are raging because you did it in the last minute like it was somesort of 'Grand Surprise'


Perhaps this is due to my obviously deficient understanding of English, but secrecy to me implies that we were trying to keep it hidden. We weren't. We did one interview before the game, and in that we stated that we would indeed be monetizing, for example. The exact details of the thing were finalized very late in the process. For a long time we were ourselves unsure on how we wanted it to look.

We have generally not been talking much about the game, quite simply.

Whether it was announced beforehand or after the fact objectively makes no difference to what people can do right now. I can entertain the idea that we should have announced it earlier, but so what? We didn't, and here we are now.

It is what it is.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby TablerTurnip » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:06 pm

jorb wrote:It is what it is.


"It is" going to lose you the majority of your playerbase. ;)
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Re: P2P plan

Postby jorb » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:08 pm

TablerTurnip wrote:
jorb wrote:It is what it is.


"It is" going to lose you the majority of your playerbase. ;)


In that case: At least we tried. ;)

Considering the playerbase we had before the launch I'm not sure I feel I have much to lose.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby aradar » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:10 pm

what player base the 20 people with there 10 alts ?
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