Optional PVP

[xdragonlord18]

These are all just meaningless guesses based on everyone's personal experiences with development. The only way to settle this is by actually doing a test server and comparing statistics:

I just want to apply the scientific method to it and see who is right.

the problem is that the game has such a small playerbase and the game demands such a large time investment that the testing results you get would be shaky at best not to mention the playerbase may never recover from being split just to test it out

[MightySheep]

can someone explain to me what is even the point of this game without pvp because I dont get it...

[Granger]

And you know what? If this thing has no chance of working like ever why not give it a try and prove me wrong? Run a paralel limited pvp world and see how it goes. If it becomes an unlivable hellhole I will forever shut up and you will all have more than a couple of flawed posts to backup your bullshit. What harm can it do? Can't drive more people away than this rotten community has been doing over time. Fuck put a disclaimer over it tell everyone the other world is the one they should play I don't care. I just want to apply the scientific method to it and see who is right.

Same here, with the difference that I don't want to limit PvP but make death more lenient and remove alt armies.

Run a paralel limited pvp world and see how it goes
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I just want to apply the scientific method to it and see who is right.

That is more or less the idea behind Granger's server. A few people declared interest and it would cost the devs nothing.
I'm down to it because it has a one-char policy. I still think the issue is not pvp, but alts. Meaningful pvp does sound kinda fun.

how would having a 2nd server cost the developers nothing everything has a cost and nothing is for free and how did he plan to enforce this 1 character policy anyways

To answer your question, please read this post.

And a moderator toward @xdragonlord18: please keep it civil.

[xdragonlord18]

And you know what? If this thing has no chance of working like ever why not give it a try and prove me wrong? Run a paralel limited pvp world and see how it goes. If it becomes an unlivable hellhole I will forever shut up and you will all have more than a couple of flawed posts to backup your bullshit. What harm can it do? Can't drive more people away than this rotten community has been doing over time. Fuck put a disclaimer over it tell everyone the other world is the one they should play I don't care. I just want to apply the scientific method to it and see who is right.

Same here, with the difference that I don't want to limit PvP but make death more lenient and remove alt armies.

That is more or less the idea behind Granger's server. A few people declared interest and it would cost the devs nothing.
I'm down to it because it has a one-char policy. I still think the issue is not pvp, but alts. Meaningful pvp does sound kinda fun.

how would having a 2nd server cost the developers nothing everything has a cost and nothing is for free and how did he plan to enforce this 1 character policy anyways

To answer your question, please read this post.

And a moderator toward @xdragonlord18: please keep it civil.

im not going to read through all of those pages but the post u linked didnt mention anything about the problem of splitting an already small playerbase was this addressed in the comments that followed that post or no

[MadNomad]

i was talking about the ramifications of adding another server you dip shit it affects everyone and has nothing to do with wether or not they should or shouldnt keep the nidbane and scent systems

just a thought, calm, forum is 4 talking

PvP is essential to the game in my opinion, however perma-death isn't.

can someone explain to me what is even the point of this game without pvp because I dont get it...

some people just replace it with something else, but it isnt very good to have such impact on people who want to pvp in this kind of game tbh

[Jacobian123]

Two servers would be nice. Would allow for pvpers to keep pvping and having their fun w/ raiding and that kind of thing, while a peaceful server could allow for more expansive empire building without violence. Unwalled farms, pretty looking places, etc.

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

Just play farmville

[Jacobian123]

Just play farmville

Good contribution to the thread.

[MrPunchers]

Dude I'd rather not get fucked by factions as a hermit but this is the way of the game, in real life in PvP optional? Most people won't engage you sure, but if someone decided to rush you with a knife you can't pull out your Noob Guard tm and tell him to stop. You can retaliate (and get stabbed lol), run (and still probably get stabbed since you have to be like 15 feet from someone to react from reflex), or contact the authorities or someone that is more prepared than you to deal with someone trying to stab you. In no way do I think that this game is supposed to represent real life, but having non-pvp would just let people do dumb shit that I can't think of right now, but would inevitably happen since every time a feature like this is introduced it causes stupid shit.

[ven]

in real life in PvP optional? Most people won't engage you sure, but if someone decided to rush you with a knife you can't pull out your Noob Guard tm and tell him to stop.

In real life you don't have alts to commit crimes for you and it also takes a few decades until your crime can't be tracked to you anymore.

All your speculations, as well as mine, are pointless. The only way to really know if this would work or not is to test it:

just want to apply the scientific method to it and see who is right.