Nerf Cave Anglers

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Re: Nerf Cave Anglers

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat May 29, 2021 11:10 am

This issue is not specific to anglers, people can bot camp any high q node and they absolutely do. q300+ bears and whales and you name it. They are botcamped, reported on discord and abused.

A hard and relevant fix that would obliterate the unfairness of this across the board would be to make animal quality nodes migrate/reset/reshuffle across the world every week or so.

I've said it 100 times, it makes zero sense for animals to infinitely spawn in the same place over and over again forever, no animal would continue to venture in to an area that is hunted so often, especially not the strongest and smartest and highest quality of animals???

1 small change would 100% fix the issue immediately.
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Re: Nerf Cave Anglers

Postby Ardennesss » Sat May 29, 2021 12:15 pm

Zentetsuken wrote:This issue is not specific to anglers, people can bot camp any high q node and they absolutely do. q300+ bears and whales and you name it. They are botcamped, reported on discord and abused.

A hard and relevant fix that would obliterate the unfairness of this across the board would be to make animal quality nodes migrate/reset/reshuffle across the world every week or so.

I've said it 100 times, it makes zero sense for animals to infinitely spawn in the same place over and over again forever, no animal would continue to venture in to an area that is hunted so often, especially not the strongest and smartest and highest quality of animals???

1 small change would 100% fix the issue immediately.
Doesn't that just incentivize botting every lake you know underground rather than just the high quality ones, because they all might spawn a high quality angler?
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Re: Nerf Cave Anglers

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat May 29, 2021 12:47 pm

Ardennesss wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:This issue is not specific to anglers, people can bot camp any high q node and they absolutely do. q300+ bears and whales and you name it. They are botcamped, reported on discord and abused.

A hard and relevant fix that would obliterate the unfairness of this across the board would be to make animal quality nodes migrate/reset/reshuffle across the world every week or so.

I've said it 100 times, it makes zero sense for animals to infinitely spawn in the same place over and over again forever, no animal would continue to venture in to an area that is hunted so often, especially not the strongest and smartest and highest quality of animals???

1 small change would 100% fix the issue immediately.
Doesn't that just incentivize botting every lake you know underground rather than just the high quality ones, because they all might spawn a high quality angler?


If somebody wants to make 30 bots sitting at 30 rivers all connected to scripts pinging to discord and go down and check q of basically every one as they change each week then I 'm pretty sure than literally any effort to subvert the problem is not going to stop such a person from finding an edge. The same person could make 30 boats boating around the ocean for whales, spread through a massive area looking for bears, etc.

That person will always have an edge, but if I'm being honest I think that this is a pretty fringe case that should not even be considered.
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Re: Nerf Cave Anglers

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 29, 2021 12:47 pm

migrating quality nodes would for sure instantly result in a lot of effort making our animal bots more sophisticated, and probably saving more time relative to doing them manually as opposed to stopping us from using those bots. I think the variance between shit animals and dank animals being much, much smaller on the other hand would immensely reduce the amount of botting we do in that regard, and maybe even make it reasonable to just buy animal products from plebs.

P.S: if you think anglers are power creeped(TBH, they are) then you shouldn't be trying to get them nerfed - you should accept every advantage you can get because you're not even in the same swimming pool as the whalers xd
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Re: Nerf Cave Anglers

Postby azrid » Sat May 29, 2021 12:54 pm

Zentetsuken wrote:A hard and relevant fix that would obliterate the unfairness of this across the board would be to make animal quality nodes migrate/reset/reshuffle across the world every week or so.

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