Ending cosmetic item extortion

[telum12]

This is why I have never and will never buy any standalone cosmetic for this game. Yeah, I wouldn't give it up in a "hat or die" situation, but I wouldn't BE in that situation if people knew they weren't gonna get better than a q30 stone axe out of me. You've allowed the incentive to persist, why the fuck would anyone support that?

Mate, people will kill you regardless of whether you have a hat or not. The lack of a hat just removes the option of being able to give the hat. Jesus, you people are insane.

[azrid]

In any other mmorpg extortion like this happens but they also get reported and banned very quickly.

LOL

"LOL"

[wonder-ass]

osrs extortion gets banned LOL so anyways brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr accounts

[Essemecks]

This is why I have never and will never buy any standalone cosmetic for this game. Yeah, I wouldn't give it up in a "hat or die" situation, but I wouldn't BE in that situation if people knew they weren't gonna get better than a q30 stone axe out of me. You've allowed the incentive to persist, why the fuck would anyone support that?

Mate, people will kill you regardless of whether you have a hat or not. The lack of a hat just removes the option of being able to give the hat. Jesus, you people are insane.

Bro, I've been playing longer than you have. You think I don't know that people will murder you just for funsies? It's always been that way.

What's changed is the coordinated, high-level griefing of less-established players. It didn't used to be like this because there was simply no value in doing so. These cosmetics are fucking stupid to begin with, the fact that they create an incentive for this type of behavior is just icing on the cake.

[Massa]

This is why I have never and will never buy any standalone cosmetic for this game. Yeah, I wouldn't give it up in a "hat or die" situation, but I wouldn't BE in that situation if people knew they weren't gonna get better than a q30 stone axe out of me. You've allowed the incentive to persist, why the fuck would anyone support that?

Mate, people will kill you regardless of whether you have a hat or not. The lack of a hat just removes the option of being able to give the hat. Jesus, you people are insane.

Bro, I've been playing longer than you have. You think I don't know that people will murder you just for funsies? It's always been that way.

What's changed is the coordinated, high-level griefing of less-established players. It didn't used to be like this because there was simply no value in doing so. These cosmetics are fucking stupid to begin with, the fact that they create an incentive for this type of behavior is just icing on the cake.

yes it did dude what the fuck are you smoking, you're 14 posts deep from 2010

this has been the way shit is since world 3. If there's a flaw in your shit, you'll get raided by it. If you get caught outside, you get killed, if someone gets in your base, every cupboard will be bashed. Your shit will ALWAYS get destroyed, and all unknowns are kill-on-sight if you have, or ever have had a brain. This game has always been a full bore grief and conflict game.

Hermits MUST be removed or they literally grief the local pool.

[azrid]

Hermits MUST be removed or they literally grief the local pool.

wrong
Hermits are the real players of this game.
Most "pros" are just tourists. They never stick around.
I will stick up for my hermit brothers and sisters on the forum because you village monkeys have some really horrible ideas a lot of the time.

[Dondy]

I don't get the hate on for extorting hats. Many of them look kinds dumb, like the raw chicken hat. If you get subscriptions you are going to have hats you never use. It's not so much a matter of collecting hats that the extortionist probably can't even use because they already have fifty hats and only forty alts and it's yet another duplicate anyway, as an excuse to spare your character instead of slaughtering you without giving quarter.

[WowGain]

and extorting somebody for that axe is the same thing

You're not going to be able to extort a sprucecap for a top-quality axe. That's complete horseshit and you know it. That axe isn't leaving the village it's kept in and it's definitely not going to be carried by a sprucecap. Likewise, I've never seen sprucecaps hauling anvils (top-quality or not) while foraging for nettles. As Sevenless rightly pointed out, 'give us hats or we siege your claim' is not a thing, so all of the actually valuable non-store items are out of reach for hat extortion.

And the suggestions aren't to make hat trading impossible, it's just to put them on the same level as the stone axes and anvils you're clearly gaining through hat extortion. You'll still be able to walk up to their claim and say 'give us your hat or we'll siege and kill you', you just won't be able to force people to make really dumb choices with real-money implications under strong pressure anymore.

I may be biased, but I think it would be very silly to have murder/theft/etc be core features of your game, then draw an arbitrary line in the sand at trading away in-game items for not getting murdered.

That line already exists. You cannot take my hat off my unconscious body. If I ever drop or misplace it, you cannot pick it up. It persists beyond world resets. Hats already adhere to different rules than actual in-game items and are where most interactions are concerned a property of the account, not an item in the game world. Being able to force a trade under duress is a loophole within that system, allowing you to steal an item that is otherwise not obtainable through in-game crime (with protections against in-game stealing being explicitly built into the game!).

literally just dunk'd two retards yesterday that had an axe 20+q better than our current top axe. people are stupid. just like you!

[Blacktooth]

This is why I have never and will never buy any standalone cosmetic for this game. Yeah, I wouldn't give it up in a "hat or die" situation, but I wouldn't BE in that situation if people knew they weren't gonna get better than a q30 stone axe out of me. You've allowed the incentive to persist, why the fuck would anyone support that?

Mate, people will kill you regardless of whether you have a hat or not. The lack of a hat just removes the option of being able to give the hat. Jesus, you people are insane.

This shallow argument goes both ways...Since you are going to kill them anyway, then there is no need to extort them for a hat.

Again, the hats are rewards for supporting the game. They should be worn by those that chose to do so without penalty of any sort.

There are more than enough opportunities to be a jerk in the game. This doesn't have to be one of them.

[Kaios]

literally just dunk'd two retards yesterday that had an axe 20+q better than our current top axe. people are stupid. just like you!

from q20 to q40 then? very nice

I doubt it was a top axe for the person you took it from that's why they had it outside and the chances that they paid real money for it are extremely low. It's not a very good point you're making, considering you are only playing the game how it was intended to be played and not attempting to maliciously extort real money items from other players.