Things that aren't fun in Haven

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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby vatas » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:20 pm

Vesena wrote:Have a wound I want to convert to Leech Burns
Cover myself in leeches
Take 100+ damage
No Leech Burns

Change it to Leechs always inflicting 1 point of burns modified by quality on their third bite, please.

I can guarantee people would have leech bite alt twice, then have the healing third bite for the main character.

They could possibly be changed to work similar to Opium where instead of the desired effect being pure RNG you gain gradual buff that gives the effect gradually.
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby VDZ » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:55 pm

vatas wrote:I can guarantee people would have leech bite alt twice, then have the healing third bite for the main character.

That would be so tedious, I can't believe anyboty would do that. The timing would be so annoying you'd have to condition it as some sort of automatism. It would benefit only players so tightly coordinated you'd think they were acting out a script. So clearly no human would ever go through those steps.
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby WowGain » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:15 am

Sprinkle wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:They're not. Wait for beeswax.

It's not fun waiting for bees wax, I'm aware of bees wax. If candleberries didn't exist I would have posted that waiting for bees wax is not fun.

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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby VDZ » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:41 pm

WowGain wrote:bough pyre wild beehives 4head

You get 0-3 honeycombs per beehive. Let's be generous and say you get an average of 1.5 per raid (in practice it leans towards the lower side), you'd still have to raid 134 beehives to get enough wax for a minehole to layer 2. (Using bough pyres, assuming perfect timing, that would take 33 hours.)
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby waga » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:04 pm

VDZ wrote:
WowGain wrote:bough pyre wild beehives 4head

You get 0-3 honeycombs per beehive. Let's be generous and say you get an average of 1.5 per raid (in practice it leans towards the lower side), you'd still have to raid 134 beehives to get enough wax for a minehole to layer 2. (Using bough pyres, assuming perfect timing, that would take 33 hours.)


if you're waiting in front of the pyre for 15 min you're trolling hard.
edit: I'm not advocating to get your 20 wax with wild behives, just poiting out that the maths is wrong ( or playing wrong)
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby Robertzon » Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:45 pm

i agree with ur post
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby VDZ » Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:33 am

waga wrote:if you're waiting in front of the pyre for 15 min you're trolling hard.
edit: I'm not advocating to get your 20 wax with wild behives, just poiting out that the maths is wrong ( or playing wrong)

You need to remain in the area, or it will get unloaded and your progress (and the beehive) will be lost. You can't just set it, go out boating and come back an hour later to collect the stuff.
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby waga » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:31 am

VDZ wrote:
waga wrote:if you're waiting in front of the pyre for 15 min you're trolling hard.
edit: I'm not advocating to get your 20 wax with wild behives, just poiting out that the maths is wrong ( or playing wrong)

You need to remain in the area, or it will get unloaded and your progress (and the beehive) will be lost. You can't just set it, go out boating and come back an hour later to collect the stuff.


Indeed you can't, you need to come back between 15 and 20 mlinutes because there is a 5 minutes window.
After about 5 more minutes, then both the bough pyre remains and unprotected beehive both despawn.

https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Bough_Pyre
So no, you don't need to remain in the area.
You can find 3-4 more beehive in 15-mins and the chance it unloads are <<<<<<<< 75+% making it a no brainer.
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby VDZ » Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:59 am

waga wrote:https://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Bough_Pyre
So no, you don't need to remain in the area.

In that very article you linked:
Ring of Brodgar wrote:Note: nothing in the pyre presently prevents the beehive from despawning if the map section unloads, so log off (or wander away) at your own risk.


waga wrote:You can find 3-4 more beehive in 15-mins and the chance it unloads are <<<<<<<< 75+% making it a no brainer.


Bullshit. The chance it unloads in 15 minutes is 100% unless someone else happens to be wandering around nearby. Unless you live in a busy area you simply can't do this when it's not within 1 minimap distance of your base (and it still means you can't go out or stay inside a building for too long), and unless your base is huge you'll only have 0-1 beehives at a time, 2 if you're very lucky. Then after raiding you'll only get another chance at a beehive every time you log off or travel away for more than 10 minutes.
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Re: Things that aren't fun in Haven

Postby waga » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:27 am

Have you even tried ? .......
My sample size is big enough now to be 100% sure you're completely wrong.
Yes tested in remote area.
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