Indiscriminate wanton murdering deterrent

[joojoo1975]

Not rage quitting, Just really didn't know the levels that the botters are at currently(and I still don't know to be Truly Honest)

[DonVelD]

Its not that bad actually.

And I've seen it all. People overblew it and point their finger at botting as an easy excuse for them being bad at the game.

[joojoo1975]

It's pretty fuckin bad when you have bots that tell you to get online so you can kill high lvl animals!

FFS man, not to mention the stuff most everyone knows about. To the casual player, there is no incentive to play this game.

custom famring, cheese, steel, Hell prolly custom everything. Which makes me believe they also have custom fighting scripts, so they can one run account and allow the bots to run other accounts.



It's like playing in a game of poker, but the dealer and a friend of his get to cheat. Who wants to play in that game.

[DonVelD]

[SnuggleSnail]

Not sure if it makes you feel better or worse, but the botting in haven is nowhere near as bad as most other games. The small playerbase, and there being no money involved means not as many talented man-hours have been put into it. The difference you're experiencing isn't more botting, it's just people being more open about it because it's within ToS.

RMT is the same. I basically put a down payment on my house from from the initial launch of classic WoW, but I'll probably never RMT haven because it's simply not worth it. Yet average players probably see it more in haven.

[Audiosmurf]

Not rage quitting, Just really didn't know the levels that the botters are at currently(and I still don't know to be Truly Honest)

Honestly anyone trying to downplay it just doesn't want their toys taken away. It's people who genuinely don't like the game, which I think is sad, but they seemingly need somewhere to pump up their e-penis.

[DonVelD]

Its more of a hes mostly right but hes going into schizo territory by theorizing + loser mindset,

[joojoo1975]

Its more of a hes mostly right but hes going into schizo territory by theorizing + loser mindset,

seriously do not understand where you see the mental illness from my lines of text. But if it helps you. . .

And loser mindset, not so much as hopeless for the most part, but maybe you equate the two. But only thing I can do is theorize. I don't have bots, nor have I been in a village that had bots, to my understanding. I like what the game was at one time, and I guess I have hope that it could go back. But I'm only kidding myself. those days are forever gone.

And to be brutally honest, I have a feeling when Steam gets wind of the ease of use botting. . .

yea

[wonder-ass]

Name the bots in question that gave me pvp advantage over you.

[animary]

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I'm pasting TLDR version of developers note about PVP....

By basing their arguments on the ideals of Ayn Rand they remove all concepts of ethics and morality from the game. Rand espoused "might makes right" - if I can kick your butt that means i am a better person than you. She believed in totalitarianism and supported Hitler. She stated the treatment of the Native Americans was proper and acceptable because "they weren't using the land anyway".

But the proposals for reining in the sick mindset of killing random people just because they are there and "it's fun" are meaningless. Longer scents? Inability to hearth for a day? Will have no effect at all. Most PKs are very strong fighters who, if they cannot hearth will just ride or sail home, killing anyone they encounter along the way. Nidbanes are useless, a strong fighter can easily kill them.

We need some option that, as in real life, will prove an actual deterrent to such people. I can think of nothing the devs would consider, because the PK contingent in the game is so vocal; perhaps steam will see this as an issue.

I've long proposed a separate non-PVP server, people can play either or both, would be interesting to see which attracts more players. Such a version would promote community and interaction in the game, rather than paranoia and isolationism.