Njce job killing the game

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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby Kaios » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:00 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:I think there are tryhard botters but the overlap between the tryhard botters and PVPers is pretty small so it ends up not being that impactful


Well obviously you don't need to bot when jorb and loftar straight up assist you in exploiting and then do nothing about it.
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:01 pm

so true whatever that means
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby Kaios » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:26 pm

If you know you know. Being good at bug finding and seeking out niche mechanical interactions is a skill of its own for sure, but as soon as you make use of any advantage that such exploits may have provided against other players (whether you needed the advantage or not) that is when the devs should be taking action. Instead it seems more like they reward you for that kind of behaviour, idk why they love your nerd ass so much. Perhaps the jorb anal friends group was never disbanded at all, it simply moved to discord.
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby scouter1 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:53 pm

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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby JohnBender » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:00 pm

terechgracz wrote:why idiots won't ask good players how it's done and instead whine there? there is "How do I?" section on the forum. Just ask if you want to know something. Like "how to kill 30 boars in first 24h" or smth bugging you.


Tell him, tell him right now. You just wrote a little paragraph. Finish the job, tell the "idiot."
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby Massa » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:03 pm

Kaios wrote:If you know you know. Being good at bug finding and seeking out niche mechanical interactions is a skill of its own for sure, but as soon as you make use of any advantage that such exploits may have provided against other players (whether you needed the advantage or not) that is when the devs should be taking action. Instead it seems more like they reward you for that kind of behaviour, idk why they love your nerd ass so much. Perhaps the jorb anal friends group was never disbanded at all, it simply moved to discord.

Honey your pedigree goes back to Pandemonium, you've also been there and done that, why are you learning helplessness? These players don't have any experience or quality you lack.
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby SnuggleSnail » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:08 pm

DO NOT FUCKING COMPARE ME TO KAIOS
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby Kaios » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:14 pm

:lol:

Nah it goes back further than that to world 3 with Sodom and Constantinople. Anyhow that's my point, it is kind of funny to see history repeating itself when many of those same players complained about those types of interactions with the devs. I'm not the one that came up with the phrase "jorb anal friends" if you recall.
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby pagsiu » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:49 pm

Kaios wrote:"jorb anal friends"

How can I become a jorb anal friend? :o
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Re: Njce job killing the game

Postby The_Blode » Wed Dec 10, 2025 4:07 pm

Einlanser wrote:The game is sort of weirdly balanced around alts, though, and that always annoyed me. Perhaps that's more of a personal quirk, but if the game is oriented around this "risk inherent with everything, you must leave your village and feel the tension" gameplay, the presence of alts at all defrays it.

If you have your one guy, and everything risks them, that's some tension. If you log on "Fisto-Roboto 1, 2, and 3" once a day to feed on STR, AGI, CON and stuff their study while mostly playing on a more general purpose character, your attachment to the character, only to bust those guys out when it's time to dance, your tension is reduced, the risk of loss reduced, and your willingness to gamble these characters on frivolous conflict increased.

Alts can hold all your best stuff in their inventory in the void and only be logged in when it's safe.

Alts can open and close the doors.

Alts can be the safe scouts and disposable soldiers and special purpose tools.

I do not like them. They are the hinge upon which all of my ire turns.


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