P2P plan

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Re: P2P plan

Postby alioli » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:17 pm

Illumina wrote:Player : Thanks for letting me live here for free for these last seven years
Jorbtar : No problem, by the way we're making you a better house!
Player : That's nice, tell me if something happens.
Jorbtar : You can come to the new house now! we burned down the old one.
Player : OK, but what is this about rent?
Jorbtar : The roof leaks, the doors aren't in yet, we haven't intalled the utilities, and you have to leave in 48 hours if you don't pay rent. Next month you can sniff the furniture for another half day so its fair.



^ Perfect.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby kris_hole » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:20 pm

alioli wrote:
kris_hole wrote:I like how all the bitching people are using WoW, League etc as examples as to why this is unfair...

For a start, wow has THOOOUUUSANDS of players, using any major online game as an argument against this is like bringing a tank to a fist fight, you're just a dickhead.

this all boils down to "the game is shit so i won't pay more than $X because its unfinished but i expect you to work full time and finish this game in your spare time with no incoming finance to support it before i give you any money after 7 years of just giving your work away"

that's like having somebody plaster your house and saying "fuck you i'm not paying you because you used my kettle and drank my tea"

Either grow up and just accept things as they are or fuck off back to minecraft. I for one am happy this in in place so all the fucking annoying cunts crying about this won't be in the game to fuck with people.

No, that's like having someone repaint my house and then going; I'm not paying you because you forgot to paint the house.


They haven't forgot to do anything? They briefly spoke about monetizing the game, instead of complaining because you expected them to just give you their work for free forever, try actually saying something productive and constructive?

"the game is shit" - i disagree, the game visually looks amazing, i love the art style. Yeah the server might crash but guess what? They didn't have a few thousand euros to throw into stress testing because THE FUCKING GAME HAS BEEN FREE FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS

I honestly don't understand where the fuck you get off on being such a bitch. How would you feel going to work 7 years with no pay, then when you ask for something you get kicked in the cunt so hard you end up having a beard.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby alioli » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:22 pm

kris_hole wrote:
alioli wrote:
kris_hole wrote:I like how all the bitching people are using WoW, League etc as examples as to why this is unfair...

For a start, wow has THOOOUUUSANDS of players, using any major online game as an argument against this is like bringing a tank to a fist fight, you're just a dickhead.

this all boils down to "the game is shit so i won't pay more than $X because its unfinished but i expect you to work full time and finish this game in your spare time with no incoming finance to support it before i give you any money after 7 years of just giving your work away"

that's like having somebody plaster your house and saying "fuck you i'm not paying you because you used my kettle and drank my tea"

Either grow up and just accept things as they are or fuck off back to minecraft. I for one am happy this in in place so all the fucking annoying cunts crying about this won't be in the game to fuck with people.

No, that's like having someone repaint my house and then going; I'm not paying you because you forgot to paint the house.


They haven't forgot to do anything? They briefly spoke about monetizing the game, instead of complaining because you expected them to just give you their work for free forever, try actually saying something productive and constructive?

"the game is shit" - i disagree, the game visually looks amazing, i love the art style. Yeah the server might crash but guess what? They didn't have a few thousand euros to throw into stress testing because THE FUCKING GAME HAS BEEN FREE FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS

I honestly don't understand where the fuck you get off on being such a bitch. How would you feel going to work 7 years with no pay, then when you ask for something you get kicked in the cunt so hard you end up having a beard.


I've said many times before that I WOULD pay them - if it wasnt so damned expensive.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby chrisrock » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:25 pm

kris_hole wrote:
They haven't forgot to do anything? They briefly spoke about monetizing the game, instead of complaining because you expected them to just give you their work for free forever, try actually saying something productive and constructive?

"the game is shit" - i disagree, the game visually looks amazing, i love the art style. Yeah the server might crash but guess what? They didn't have a few thousand euros to throw into stress testing because THE FUCKING GAME HAS BEEN FREE FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS

I honestly don't understand where the fuck you get off on being such a bitch. How would you feel going to work 7 years with no pay, then when you ask for something you get kicked in the cunt so hard you end up having a beard.


dude, chill out, no need for harsh language...
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Re: P2P plan

Postby kemil88 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:25 pm

kris_hole wrote:
kemil88 wrote:Jorb's answer to any critiques: If you don't like it, go play something else.
That's how games fail.


You know when you go to a chinese restaurant but you wanted indian food? They would refuse to serve you it regardless of how much you kicked off, a game is exactly the same. Too much is bad, you can't cater to everyone, and you can't expect the devs to cater to you because you're a broke ass bitch.

No, it's more like when you go to a restaurant and you ask salad fruit without...idk, strawberryes? And they say "If you don't like our salad fruit, then go eat it somewhere else!" instead of selling you the salat fruit without straberryes, or if in a restaurant where 1000 customers join every day, they double the prices and then 900 of them stop going there to go in another cheaper but same quality restaurant, and they say to the one who doubled the price that it's not a smart thing and if they don't put it back as it was before, they would not go there anymore, and they answer "If you don't like our prices, go to the other restaurant, with same quality and cheaper food".
It's just a shame and some sort of business suicide
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Re: P2P plan

Postby thl111 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:26 pm

Wouldn't it be better if they did something like they'd done with Salem? Find a publisher who will handle the financial part and at least provides a decent server while they focus wholly on developing the game. I know that Seatribe and Paradox 's Salem was a mess but at that time, I believe they had HnH 2 to concern about. Now it's only 1 game.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby kris_hole » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:30 pm

kemil88 wrote:
kris_hole wrote:
kemil88 wrote:Jorb's answer to any critiques: If you don't like it, go play something else.
That's how games fail.


You know when you go to a chinese restaurant but you wanted indian food? They would refuse to serve you it regardless of how much you kicked off, a game is exactly the same. Too much is bad, you can't cater to everyone, and you can't expect the devs to cater to you because you're a broke ass bitch.

No, it's more like when you go to a restaurant and you ask salad fruit without...idk, strawberryes? And they say "If you don't like our salad fruit, then go eat it somewhere else!" instead of selling you the salat fruit without straberryes, or if in a restaurant where 1000 customers join every day, they double the prices and then 900 of them stop going there to go in another cheaper but same quality restaurant, and they say to the one who doubled the price that it's not a smart thing and if they don't put it back as it was before, they would not go there anymore, and they answer "If you don't like our prices, go to the other restaurant, with same quality and cheaper food".
It's just a shame and some sort of business suicide


Show me the cheaper game that offers the same unique experience haven does. You're just pulling useless analogies out of your arse because at the end of the day, you're just a broke ass bitch who's too cheap to pay for a fucking game developed by two guys in their spare time.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby rezal » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:32 pm

Wurm, which is cheaper
Salem for example
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Re: P2P plan

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:33 pm

You know at the end of the day you have to admit one thing, no matter what side of the pay to play debate thread you are on here, they did what their company promisses.

Specialize in drama and damn are ya'll salty and making drama. Tasty tasty drama. :lol:

More please.
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Re: P2P plan

Postby Oblivior » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:34 pm

Ark hardcore servers
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