Remove hunger

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Re: Remove hunger

Postby Granger » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:44 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:I literally posted 2 simple suggestions in the quote you butchered, did you misread or are you just fucking with me?

While your suggestion to only gain FEP at a table sounds good on paper, what about characters that havn't yet learned carpentry?
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:45 am

Granger wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:I literally posted 2 simple suggestions in the quote you butchered, did you misread or are you just fucking with me?

While your suggestion to only gain FEP at a table sounds good on paper, what about characters that havn't yet learned carpentry?

Well they better go pick a few seeds to get discoveries for it.
You can easily gain the required amount of LP without eating anything.

Noobs will be thankful later on when they realize that they didn't burn all of their hunger and satiations in early game eating berries and shit.
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby waga » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:47 am

shubla wrote:
Granger wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:I literally posted 2 simple suggestions in the quote you butchered, did you misread or are you just fucking with me?

While your suggestion to only gain FEP at a table sounds good on paper, what about characters that havn't yet learned carpentry?

Well they better go pick a few seeds to get discoveries for it.
You can easily gain the required amount of LP without eating anything.


any player who play for more than a few days know that. ( days if they're slow :p)
The noob who just spawned doesn't.
We don't want noob to quit after 15 minutes thinking the game is shit.
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby Granger » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:48 am

It would at least need a massively extended beginners quest that steers them toward building a table...
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:50 am

waga wrote:
shubla wrote:
Granger wrote:Well they better go pick a few seeds to get discoveries for it.
You can easily gain the required amount of LP without eating anything.


any player who play for more than a few days know that. ( days if they're slow :p)
The noob who just spawned doesn't.
We don't want noob to quit after 15 minutes thinking the game is shit.

Game is unfriendly enough for noobs.
If somebody is intelligent enough to walk through the spawn room and spawn his character, he probably can build a table too!
These days we have those cool quest things, devs can add "unlock carpentry, build a table to gain stats" parts to it.

No one is going to quit because they cant get FEP by eating. They are not going to know what FEPs even are!!!

Dont listen to granger.
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby Saxony4 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:06 am

waga wrote:any player who play for more than a few days know that. ( days if they're slow :p)
The noob who just spawned doesn't.
We don't want noob to quit after 15 minutes thinking the game is shit.

That's their problem, it's the player's job to go out and discover all the things he can do and learn for the future.
shubla wrote:if somebody is intelligent enough to walk through the spawn room and spawn his character, he probably can build a table too!

Unless it's a gaming 'journalist'


Granger you gotta be joking, a newbie quest for building a table? Every sprucecap in the forest has carpentry, you think they want to store their q1 toads in wooden boxes?
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby jordancoles » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:09 am

Granger wrote:
jordancoles wrote:I think ideally feasting with a table and chairs would give feps and lower hunger while right clicking to eat your food would restore energy without reducing hunger bonus

Might give a slight problem at the start, no?

Table and chair can be made within 30 sevonds of spawning into the world if you know what youre looking for and find a bone material shortly after spawn

Anyone can make them, its not a barrier to entry imo
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby Sholom » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:03 am

Granger wrote:It would at least need a massively extended beginners quest that steers them toward building a table...

Jesus, "massive extension" literally means splitting the "eat something" objective (that we already have) in three: 1. "eat something to replenish your energy by right clicking it" 2. "build a table" 3. "use a table to feast and raise your atributes".
How stupid do you think other people are? That level of stupid are unlikely to pass the glowing orb stage.
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby Granger » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:16 am

I would suggest an experiment: Sit someone that dosn't know it infront of H&H, shut up and just watch how well they'll do for an hour or two. Then think a moment about the idea that you might have lost touch with how a newbie might feel as you're playing this game for >5 years so stuff is 'normal'.
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Re: Remove hunger

Postby DDDsDD999 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:41 am

Granger wrote:I would suggest an experiment: Sit someone that dosn't know it infront of H&H, shut up and just watch how well they'll do for an hour or two. Then think a moment about the idea that you might have lost touch with how a newbie might feel as you're playing this game for >5 years so stuff is 'normal'.

First thing new people do is see the quest to restore energy, run around eating any berry they see, and fuck up their ability to gain stats for a while.
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