Controversial Names / Naming

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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Stoneface » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:10 pm

In a world like this, where it is not just a logo, avatar, or spray of some kind, it is not just as simple as "remove it". You're altering ALL players ability to enter simple words, and can you imagine how annoying that might be, lets say, if for example "Hell" was a banned word. "Hello there, friend!" becomes "*****" "You have had your account warned for speaking a "no-no" word." Now go take a 1d timeout, and if it happens again, we ban your account for a week or longer! Muahahaha.

Do you not see why everyone is so against this? (Aside from the sandy vaginas)

And I as well would immediately stop playing if any type of attitude/lexicon censorship came into play.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Tonkyhonk » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Óðinn wrote:I mean, I agree that it's nonsense. But removing it won't stop people from playing, where as it does stop people from complaining about mundane shit.

they are also "customers" as you say.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby painhertz » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Denkar wrote:
Óðinn wrote:removing it won't stop people from playing

What? I'd for sure stop playing if they succumbed to this social justice garbage.


Same, Sick of this PC bullshit. First it was the P2P and now this? You people need to find another game to bitch about.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:13 pm

Yeah but it is Jorb & Loftar we are talking about.

Mentioning their names & politically correct in the same line just sounds dirty; and may even break the universe. Did we not forget Jorb banned Claeyt for being too liberal? Seems too unlikely they'd even slightly subcome to the muh feelings crowd.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Tonkyhonk » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:15 pm

An_Infinity_of_War wrote:Did we not forget Jorb banned Claeyt for being too liberal?

im not jorb, but i dont think being too liberal was the reason. it was about claeyt being claeyt
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Óðinn » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:15 pm

Stoneface wrote:Except by limiting what the players can do and say ingame by saying "I don't think this should be able to be said/written/typed" is just your own way of enforcing YOUR rules onto the other players of the game.
Life does not operate by your rules, it operates by the rules of the ones in power.

In this case, it is J & L who run the game, and if they decide they do not want to see "racism" or "BAD WORDS" in their game, then let them do something about it. Until then, kindly untwist your panties from the liberal bunch they are in, and suck it up.

I personally enjoy the fucking hell out of the ability to speak my mind, ESPECIALLY when I know cunts like you are crying about it. Just how some people operate. If you (all) collectively bitched less, less people would know your "hot button" issues, and be able to use that as ammunition to hurt you.


I have said numerous times before that I don't care. You can keep pretending I care but I don't. I'm simply stating that you can't look at monetization purely for the positives (money) and ignore the negatives (having to spend money on quality control.) Unless they somehow make a mark somewhere before buying stating 'multiplayer experience may feature racist/derogatory remarks' or whatever creative lawyer shit they can come up with, they might have to cope with people refunding money simply because they are butthurt by shit people said in game.

Or even people refunding just because they want money. And then using the offended argument as a pretext to get their money back.

But hey, by all means, speak your mind to me. I don't care. It's good to see that you have your panties in a bunch and are now actually angry at me for saying that asking money for a product equals getting counter-demands for that product.

There's a reason why even the cesspit of the internet, /b/ (or SA if you are so inclined) has limits on what you can say. Those limits are simply there not because they CARE about what you post, they are there to protect themselves. If child porn gets posted there, or somehow someone links child porn in-game and anyone finds out about it and reports it, it's not the PERSON getting in trouble, it's the game creators (Jorbtar) getting in trouble. Because the ones posting it are nearly untraceable, and the game devs should've implemented measures to stop this.

It's common practice, really. Promoting racism and promoting hatred and violence against specific races (''kill all niggers'') is illegal here so I am very very sure it's illegal in Sweden too. Jorb and Loftar should protect themselves against this. It's probably in their best interest, if you ask me.

Denkar wrote:
Óðinn wrote:removing it won't stop people from playing

What? I'd for sure stop playing if they succumbed to this social justice garbage.


In that case you are stopping for idealistic reasons, not because of the actual measures implemented. I'm not advocating censorship, I'm advocating that they cover their asses in case something does happen. If/how they do that is ofcourse up to them.

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Óðinn wrote:I mean, I agree that it's nonsense. But removing it won't stop people from playing, where as it does stop people from complaining about mundane shit.

they are also "customers" as you say.


Actually this game is free to play. I know that, because I played the tanks counterpart (''World of Tanks'') extensively. Paying them at all is optional. And even if they did pay for anything, it's their right to complain about things.

After that, it is Wargaming's right to choose whether or not to respond to these complaints. It's as simple as that, isn't it.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:19 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:im not jorb, but i dont think being too liberal was the reason. it was about claeyt being claeyt


Dear god no, the guy is just too damn retarded. Adding in the liberal part makes sense when we remember the jackass supported censoring "harmful" words. Three words that go together: I. Full-Retard II. Liberal III. Claeyt All dirty words. I need to go bleach myself now.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Stoneface » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:22 pm

I again, state for the record, I did not read the majority of your post. I got about a quarter of a second into your video and closed it. You have no merit, and I do not think you understand anything of what you are talking about.

That aside, self-proclaimed SJWs keep on at it...you really have no idea what the fuck social justice is at all. Keep linking your dank memes and videos, I enjoy watching you struggle to provide any real reason other than hurt feelings over someone else's freedom to do and say what they want in a game.

The fact that you have wasted this much of my time is already hilarious, but I have to say...study language, society, and the humanities a bit more, and come back when you wipe your own ass, maybe then we could have a constructive conversation.

But seeing as you simply regurgitate things spouted off by lame websites, I do not believe any of that would be useful, and regardless of the outcome of this thread, you will still be a weak minded individual. I cannot help what DNA/RNA you have been provided with, but I lament for your progeny (while simultaneously hoping you are sterile), and I feel so incredibly sorry to your family and anyone else that is forced to come into contact with your toxic self!

TL:DR Enjoy H&H! I think you will LOVE IT! You know, once you've been playing for more than three days and can comment on the world. ¦]
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Óðinn » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:23 pm

And here, ladies and gentlemen, we see ignorance in it's natural habitat. Enjoy real life.

Nice ad hominems, where did you get them?
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:26 pm

Stoneface wrote:tl;dr


The main point he was pushing was:

*Customer "muh money, muh feelins"
*J&L "Are game, take it or leave it.
*Customer "Muh pay-pal, bitches because of muh feelins, takes money from J&L & paypal lets it happen because of muh feelins"

Shit customer. Unlikely customer. Much feelins. Much retardedness. Very unlikely.

Óðinn wrote:Nice ad hominems, where did you get them?


Cthulhu obviously. Cthulhu blessed all ad hominems. He got them all from Cthulhu.
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