Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

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Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby banok » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:32 pm

Inheriting your hearthfire instantly for no cost is allowing too much abuse right now.

People spamming cheap mexican labour alts to dig to death, which are instantly replaced saving you resources.

NB & friends spamming alts outside our walls to scout (Killing these over and over has become everyday routine for us recently).

There needs to be a reasonable requirement, whether it waiting 2 days or developing the new character a certain extent before having an option to change hearthfire to old characters.
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby loftar » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:34 pm

Yeah, there's certainly a case to be made, but I haven't been able to think of any requirement that I find reasonable.

One thing I've considered is letting the descendant start with the same stamina and energy level as his ancestor, but that would of course not be too fun for people who've "legitimately" starved. (To the extent such a thing is even possible. ^^)
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby DDDsDD999 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:58 pm

loftar wrote:One thing I've considered is letting the descendant start with the same stamina and energy level as his ancestor, but that would of course not be too fun for people who've "legitimately" starved. (To the extent such a thing is even possible. ^^)

All that changes is you feed the labour alts shitty food like it's a cow, which isn't hard. Whole reason labour alts exist is because no one wants to waste their precious hunger bar because they need to do some work.

Only viable options for labour food that don't rape the hunger bar aren't worth the effort. Rats on a stick are basically a forageable and difficult to produce en masse, tea has a specific time limit that's arbitrary, pointless, and cumbersome. It's so much easier to have a slightly bigger beet farm to feed the labour alts and have your hemp buds ready, table set, and energy bar ignored when you feast on your actual character for phat st@ts.
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Garfy » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:48 pm

DDDsDD999 wrote:Only viable options for labour food that don't rape the hunger bar aren't worth the effort. Rats on a stick are basically a forageable and difficult to produce en masse, tea has a specific time limit that's arbitrary, pointless, and cumbersome. It's so much easier to have a slightly bigger beet farm to feed the labour alts and have your hemp buds ready, table set, and energy bar ignored when you feast on your actual character for phat st@ts.


Once you've got a village set up, getting food that gives high energy and low hunger is pretty easy to get. Steak and Tubers is what we mainly use now, 800% energy for about 2-2.5% hunger.
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Archiplex » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:44 am

How about, a character can only be inherited if they hit a certain threshold of requirements

Such as 100k lp, or even the same requirements for valhalla?
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Fostik » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:55 am

banok wrote:NB & friends spamming alts outside our walls to scout (Killing these over and over has become everyday routine for us recently).



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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Sevenless » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:20 am

DDDsDD999 wrote:Only viable options for labour food that don't rape the hunger bar aren't worth the effort.


Bread having Con FEPs kinda surprised me, I was expecting a worker's food out of it with no FEP or hunger cost tbh.
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby DaniAngione » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:03 am

Maybe a cooldown? For example, you can only "inherit" a claim once in a week - or maybe 4 days or something.
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Karede » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:17 am

DaniAngione wrote:Maybe a cooldown? For example, you can only "inherit" a claim once in a week - or maybe 4 days or something.

That's legitimately a pretty solid solution
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Re: Inheriting HF should not be instant or free

Postby Archiplex » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:21 am

People would just have multiple alts at a time, wouldn't fix much.
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