Separate building from destroying on claims

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Separate building from destroying on claims

Postby LoLa » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:10 pm

I think it would be legitimate to say that building is not the same as destroying, yet both are considered to be vandalism on a claim in this game. This creates many potential problems for when you are building trust with others in this game, because to prevent them to destroy is to also prevent them to build. One has a much more negative effect than the other. Because of this I'd like to propose a simple change that adds the option of building on claims alongside the options of trespassing, theft, & vandalism.

Example: I give orange colored player trespassing, and build permission on a claim, so that they may walk around and build whatever they like(including stockpiles, and planting trees/crops), but they do not have vandalism so they can not destroy anything on said claim.

Those of you that may propose that such a change is not required are likely either playing by yourself so this would never apply to you or you are already part of a large group of players you already trust so that this would also not apply to you.
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Re: Separate building from destroying on claims

Postby Kalacia » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:33 pm

i would rarther have a few crates destroyed than somebody building 3 log cabbins on my lawn. Or walling my house inside a pali. Which can be more destructive to my gameplay.

However i do get your point. If we do this, i would suggest increasing it to a 'use' and 'theft' also. So people can use... plows, but not take them off the claim.

Good idea if implemented correctly. +1
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Re: Separate building from destroying on claims

Postby Granger » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:58 am

Sounds good.
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Re: Separate building from destroying on claims

Postby Glorthan » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:56 am

Kalacia wrote:However i do get your point. If we do this, i would suggest increasing it to a 'use' and 'theft' also. So people can use... plows, but not take them off the claim.

Have you tried using stuff? With tresspassing most items can be used, lifted, etc. but not taken off the claim.

Plows change the land, which is vandalism. Same as paving, building, etc. LoS last world used paving to wreak havoc on a base they raided, "building" doesn't mean "not griefing". The only thing I'm sad about is that you can't interact with stockpiles with theft permissions.
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Re: Separate building from destroying on claims

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Re: Separate building from destroying on claims

Postby jorb » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:45 pm

Might. Not sure.
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