Sleeping powder

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Sleeping powder

Postby militia2 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:48 am

Or anything like that. Use it on domesticated animal and it will go to sleep for a 12 hours or so, it will start being liftable, will fit into containers. It would be really helpfull for players whos going to relocate their village.

Of course few setbacks are important, females loses their pregnancies, and all animals become unable to breed for 48 hours after waking up.
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby Redkat » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:07 pm

i'd rather not. sorry
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby DaniAngione » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:20 pm

I find this is kind of too OP... Having livestock is one of the greatest developments of sedentarism - which opposes nomadism - a concept represented in the game by the acquisition of yeomanry and the setting of claims. It is meant to be difficult to move :D You either take the challenge to move your herd or sacrifice them and tame a new herd on your new land. Few animals shouldn't be trouble, at least take your prized (best q) couples?
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby basuranephilim » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:24 pm

militia2 wrote:Or anything like that. Use it on domesticated animal and it will go to sleep for a 12 hours or so, it will start being liftable, will fit into containers. It would be really helpfull for players whos going to relocate their village.

Of course few setbacks are important, females loses their pregnancies, and all animals become unable to breed for 48 hours after waking up.


If the point is to relocate animals. Why not make it so that you can tether a ''convoy'' of animals to a wagon?
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby Potjeh » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:17 pm

Sorry Dani, but nomads have historically been mainly herders, sedentary people were mostly farmers :geek:
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby Amanda44 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:20 pm

basuranephilim wrote:
militia2 wrote:Or anything like that. Use it on domesticated animal and it will go to sleep for a 12 hours or so, it will start being liftable, will fit into containers. It would be really helpfull for players whos going to relocate their village.

Of course few setbacks are important, females loses their pregnancies, and all animals become unable to breed for 48 hours after waking up.


If the point is to relocate animals. Why not make it so that you can tether a ''convoy'' of animals to a wagon?


Yes! We so wanted this last world when we were travelling with two cows and a baby, it was a nightmare! A convoy would be ideal.
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby DaniAngione » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:42 pm

Potjeh wrote:Sorry Dani, but nomads have historically been mainly herders, sedentary people were mostly farmers :geek:


Pardon me, this is true, not exclusively true, though. Plenty of peoples and cultures out there, can't really say there's a rule. It depends largerly on the type of animal, too. It's arguably easier to live a nomadic life herding horses, for example. I challenge any nomad tribe to have hundreds of thousands of cattle heads as sedentarism allowed to, however.

It also depends largely on the amount of people. Haven has no real world population (of course :P that would be insane) And we barely have herding mechanics (besides the cheap "shoo"). It would be easier if a couple of people could guide a whole herd on horse like it would happen in RL.

What I meant to say is that Haven's mechanics for animals are those of sedentary herding: locked up animals, individual caring, few people taking care of large strips of land.
It's built more around the idea of "modern", confined herds than actual nomadic/regional pastures. Like... In RL a shepherd can take a group of sheep to feed on a nearby hill and come back. Even if there were no enemies/raiders/whatever, try that in Haven. You'll lose all of them because there's no herd logic or mechanic, they just randomly wander and there's no way to collectively control a herd, which is essential to nomadic herding.

Haven's herding mechanics are exclusively meant for confinement, that's what I intended to say :)
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby sabinati » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:28 pm

can't you still leash as many animals as you can hold ropes for?
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby LadyV » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:33 pm

Potjeh wrote:Sorry Dani, but nomads have historically been mainly herders, sedentary people were mostly farmers :geek:


:?:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sedentary

Have you ever farmed?
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Re: Sleeping powder

Postby sabinati » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:51 pm

LadyV wrote:
Potjeh wrote:Sorry Dani, but nomads have historically been mainly herders, sedentary people were mostly farmers :geek:


:?:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sedentary

Have you ever farmed?


> staying or living in one place instead of moving to different places
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