Make chainmail not useless.

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Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Pozitron » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:18 am

Why is chainmail useless?
There are two reasons in my opinion.
1. Powerful villages have a possibility to craft more better armour like ctc and plate.
2. Production of wrought iron is not so easy for new players. Most of them will craft first leather armour, then bronze cuirass and finally ̶̶a̶b̶a̶n̶d̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶ ctc/plate.

My suggestion is to make possible to wear chainmail in same slots like vapntreyiu. As it was IRL.
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Jesus_Smith_Nandez » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:25 pm

Chainmail serves a role of being in-between leather an bronze plate in agility loss and AC. In addition, it is also the easiest metal armour to make so it will be relevant early the same way leather armour is.
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:31 pm

imo just make it really cheap to make early on and people would probably use it until they can get a lot of steel. No point just making it equipable to the under-armour slots otherwise it just raises the "equip this for combat" set, and in an arguably even worse way. Vaps/Badger vests take some sewing/farming skill to have high quality. If you could replace them with chain-mail then it just makes high quality metal industry even more absurdly op.
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Pozitron » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:42 pm

Jesus_Smith_Nandez wrote:Chainmail serves a role of being in-between leather an bronze plate in agility loss and AC. In addition, it is also the easiest metal armour to make so it will be relevant early the same way leather armour is.


Never saw anyone wears chainmail. imho bronze is easier to craft. (easier = cheaper and faster)

How I see the armors now:
Leather armor - newbee's light armor
Bronze armor - newbee's heavy armor
CtC - top light armor
Steel armor - top heavy armor
chainmail - ??? useless armor
yea, all wear ctc and steel armor together or only steel
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Pozitron » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:01 pm

DDDsDD999 wrote:imo just make it really cheap to make early on and people would probably use it until they can get a lot of steel. No point just making it equipable to the under-armour slots otherwise it just raises the "equip this for combat" set, and in an arguably even worse way. Vaps/Badger vests take some sewing/farming skill to have high quality. If you could replace them with chain-mail then it just makes high quality metal industry even more absurdly op.


Why will be metal OP? U can not gild chainmail like badger vest.
Сhain need some rebalance ofc, but i think worst way is to let it be as it is
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby ydex » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:50 pm

I actually just went out and got bronze mats to make armor/sword when I realized I needed to make wrought. That was easier.
So maybe chainmail should be better then bronze?
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Teleskop » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:20 pm

make it like 3 bars of wrought or maybe change the metal to cast iron :roll:
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby shubla » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:23 pm

I can confirm that I havent seen anyone using chainmal since w6
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Onep » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:09 am

shubla wrote:I can confirm that I havent seen anyone using chainmal since w6
Pozitron wrote:Never saw anyone wears chainmail. imho bronze is easier to craft. (easier = cheaper and faster)


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I wore it for a while when I was too lazy to make a CTC. I love the way it looks, wish it was more useful somehow.
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Re: Make chainmail not useless.

Postby Hasta » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:54 am

Onep wrote:I wore it for a while when I was too lazy to make a CTC. I love the way it looks, wish it was more useful somehow.


So, basically, you're saying: all those people are wrong! I wore the chainmail! Not because it is useful, but because it looks good and I was too lazy to craft CTC.
Yeah, I'm signing under this. Fix chainmail.
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