About Decay

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About Decay

Postby sMartins » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:15 pm

Are not you also tired about hearthfires everywhere?(it keeps away all the fun in exploring new lands) Should they decay(very slowly)?
Moreover, in my mind, right now is super easy for new players finding abandoned claims, plenty of advanced resources...bringing them from stone age to iron age in 1 sec...
Should be decay time faster(once the claim expires), at least for more advanced items?
For a new player, discovering a very rich abandoned claim results in no more interest to keep discovering or keep playing the game...should be very rare in my mind, now it's pretty common.
Let me know what you think about, THX.
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Re: About Decay

Postby Colin500 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:16 pm

Hearthfire should decay if the player does not log in for more than 1 week
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Re: About Decay

Postby Bowshot125 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:31 pm

Colin500 wrote:Hearthfire should decay if the player does not log in for more than 1 week


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Re: About Decay

Postby Ozzy123 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:43 pm

Colin500 wrote:Hearthfire should decay if the player does not log in for more than 1 week


cuz noone goes for vacations or something xD
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Re: About Decay

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:17 pm

What is purpose to make hearthfires decaying?
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Re: About Decay

Postby sMartins » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:26 pm

Obviously starting decay after 1 week is way too fast, but i guess the entire world would be much better if they are gone after 3-4 or even 6 months. Untill you keep your claim active there is no problem...but keeping all the hearthfires from players that will never come back seems a bit silly to me.
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Re: About Decay

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:53 pm

sMartins wrote:Obviously starting decay after 1 week is way too fast, but i guess the entire world would be much better if they are gone after 3-4 or even 6 months. Untill you keep your claim active there is no problem...but keeping all the hearthfires from players that will never come back seems a bit silly to me.

Maybe they do come back eventually. I guess it seem silly to me to add some removal of them for sake of doing it. I think either way it does make very little different.
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Re: About Decay

Postby sMartins » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:38 pm

Ysh wrote:Maybe they do come back eventually. I guess it seem silly to me to add some removal of them for sake of doing it. I think either way it does make very little different.


If you come back after 6 months your stuff is gone anyway...so there is really no purpuose to keep your hearthfire, you can just spawn in the center of the map like a new player or somewhat. In my mind would be better if you have to start a new character ( a sort of death for starvation..)
Btw, for you guys using custom clients..i know you cannot appreciate the beuty of this world, and the magic feelings while discovering new stuff, exploring, etc..( idk how to explain in english language)...i'm speaking about the feelings that this game can give.
The purpose of hearthfire decay, and in general stuff that are not on a claim decay a bit faster (not all) are mainly 2:
1)Don't spoil the game for new players finding very advanced abandoned claim ( now it's pretty common)
2)Keeping most of the trash away of this world, cause it ruin the atmosphere, the wilderness...that make this game so good for many of us.

Those are my thoughs about decay. Let me know yours. THX
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Re: About Decay

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:56 pm

sMartins wrote:If you come back after 6 months your stuff is gone anyway...so there is really no purpuose to keep your hearthfire, you can just spawn in the center of the map like a new player or somewhat. In my mind would be better if you have to start a new character ( a sort of death for starvation..)

If I taking long break from game and come back later, I do not want to start new character. Obvious I will want to keeping statistic I farm on my character. Also I will want to start back in place I am leaving. What if I do play with some friend? All friend want to come back to game together, but they will all random spawn because hearth fires go away.
sMartins wrote:Btw, for you guys using custom clients..i know you cannot appreciate the beuty of this world, and the magic feelings while discovering new stuff, exploring, etc..( idk how to explain in english language)...i'm speaking about the feelings that this game can give.

I think words to describe you feeling here is ''haughty.'' To suggesting player cannot enjoy world with custom client is silly. You imply your way of play game is better than other, which I think is not wise saying.
sMartins wrote:The purpose of hearthfire decay, and in general stuff that are not on a claim a bit faster (not all) are mainly 2:
1)Don't spoil the game for new players finding very advanced abandoned claim ( now it's pretty common)
2)Keeping most of the trash away of this world, cause it ruin the atmosphere, the wilderness...that make this game so good for many of us.

I think you can consider that some player like to explore old ruin and it is not ''spoils'' game for them. I have see some people talking about this at other thread some time.

But in general, I think having too much of abandoned claim is looks to be eyesore on world. Especially if goal is for world to run indefinite with no reset, these abandon claim must disappear quick enough. I would like if decay systems will reduce former claim to area that looks as fresh given enough time (current I think no tree does regrow and paving is always stays, etc.).
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Re: About Decay

Postby sMartins » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:51 pm

Ysh wrote:
sMartins wrote:Btw, for you guys using custom clients..i know you cannot appreciate the beuty of this world, and the magic feelings while discovering new stuff, exploring, etc..( idk how to explain in english language)...i'm speaking about the feelings that this game can give.

I think words to describe you feeling here is ''haughty.'' To suggesting player cannot enjoy world with custom client is silly. You imply your way of play game is better than other, which I think is not wise saying.


Sorry, don't want to be rude....only saying that using custom clients, in my mind, is like cheating...and cheating in a game where taking your time to do stuff, discover, etc..let's say where the main focus is enjoying the journey, using custom clients make no sense for me. This what i'm saying, btw is only my personal opinion.
Same thing for hearthfires...in my mind they ruin the wilderness of the world: you are exploring far lands trying to find your way in the wilderness....epic stuff....but there are hearthfires evrywhere...completly game breaking feel. So, in some way i prefer they will decay...if you want come back with your friends after a very long time you can keep your stats but you have to choose a new location, otherwise your previous hearthfire as well as breaking the game feel is not allowing other players building new stuff on that tile ( and maybe who leaved that hearthfire will never come back to the game too)
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