Taming Consistency and/or Timing

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Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Iryn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:42 pm

This morning my village of 6 lost a Mouflon we had been working on because of despawning. I checked on it before going to bed at 3AM, and it was not ready for it's next beating. When I logged on this morning at 8 AM before heading into work, the Mouflon was gone. (Most of my people are East Coasters)

The inconsistency and short window of taming is something of an antifun mechanic. All your work on it over a period of days can easily be wiped out by a very short timer kicking off randomly over a very long period.

If we compare livestock to another late game resource, in this case Steel, we see the opposite. Both take days to bear fruit, but Steel is both consistent and predictable in it's function.

TL;DR, Taming either needs to occur consistently a set number of hours after the last step of progression or have a longer grace period for when animals are ready to pacified. The system as is puts it out of reach entirely for hermits without botting, and even villages of my size can run into trouble where days of progression can just disappear literally into the night.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Fierce_Deity » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:48 pm

Sounds to me like something happened with this mouflon that's unrelated to the taming. Someone may of unleashed it on accident, or forgotten to leash after its last beating. Coulda been a bug too. Even if you miss the taming window it should remain tethered. Unless something has changed.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Iryn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:05 pm

Fierce_Deity wrote:Sounds to me like something happened with this mouflon that's unrelated to the taming. Someone may of unleashed it on accident, or forgotten to leash after its last beating. Coulda been a bug too. Even if you miss the taming window it should remain tethered. Unless something has changed.


Hrm.... I'll have a word with my Minio-Loyal Belkan Subjects then. It may or may not involve a Hirdsman's sword.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Potjeh » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:41 pm

Even as a hermit I've never had animals despawn from the hitching post. I think you need to miss multiple taming windows in a row for that to happen.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Iryn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:13 pm

Potjeh wrote:Even as a hermit I've never had animals despawn from the hitching post. I think you need to miss multiple taming windows in a row for that to happen.


I really am starting to thing that someone gave it a good punching and then didn't rehitch. I told the guys to leave it to me. :P Welp, such is village life. Occasionally our leather guy goes on a rampage because people messed with his tubs, other times the cook gets mad because people swipe from his ovens. Greed and Unwelcome help are a bigger problem to village functioning than a horde of barbarians.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Iryn » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:22 pm

Okay, I tied up another Mouflon and this one has disappeared on us again. This one never received it's first beating though, so I'm unsure if thats intended behavior,
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby joojoo1975 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:06 pm

walk us through your taming and hitching process step by step, maybe(and prolly not) you are forgetting something or doing something askew?
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby Iryn » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:36 pm

joojoo1975 wrote:walk us through your taming and hitching process step by step, maybe(and prolly not) you are forgetting something or doing something askew?


Will do,
1. Find Mouflon
2. Feed Mouflon Clover
3. Take Mouflon home with Rope (Usually trailing behind one of our horses)
4. Hop off Horse, Tether Mouflon to a Hitching post (Receive Tethered Animal message in System tab)
5. Do other things/Log off, checking periodically that Mouflon hasn't entered it's combat pose and is ready for a beating
6. Mouflon disappears, Threaten Villagers, accuse them of Wrongdoing. (So far all claim to have left the Mouflon alone.)

I don't know what I could be doing wrong as I've tamed Horses before.
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby shubla » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:14 pm

taming is dangeorus be careful
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Re: Taming Consistency and/or Timing

Postby jorb » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:28 pm

There are some issues with map unloading and such, but I've generally found the mechanic workable enough. I've not had any major problems taming myself, and I'm very much a hermit.
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