Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

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Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Beezer12Washingbeard » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:36 am

This has happened twice now.

This time, I was rowing past a village (pclaims visible, vclaims not) and saw some grey clay in the shallows, so I set down my rowboat + 2 chests to grab it, but when I picked my boat back up, suddenly I couldn't leave the borders. It's fucking infuriating. I get that it's meant to keep people from walking off a claim by just lifting something, but if I set something down that I built, that shouldn't happen.

Screenshot below--the claim that I'm JUST at the corner of is the Buyan village claim, which I didn't have set visible when I grabbed the gray clay.

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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Granger » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:16 am

Everything you drop on a claim is subjected to its rules, plain and simple.
There are some exceptions in place for horses, boats (and maybe wagons) you ride onto the claim.

So not really a bug, but one could argue that there should be a short grace period to pickup dropped stuff again before it 'changes ownership'. Moving to C&I.
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Beezer12Washingbeard » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:31 am

edit: didn't see the second part of your post til after I posted this reply. Yeah, a grace period works too, and would be WAY simpler to code than my idea to boot. A grace period would be great!

Yeah, I figured that out the first time I set down a chest full of meat and couldn't pick it back up and leave with it again, or take anything out. I'm not confused as to what's happening, I understand, and think it's annoying and unintuitive as hell.

I realize that it's probably the simplest solution codewise, but surely there must be a better way--perhaps a way to individually mark containers that you own (etchings, or something), so that if you drop them on a claim you can pick them back up again, rather than going "welp I guess that's theirs forever now," or having to search the forums to try and figure out who to contact to get your stuff back, which is what I'm doing.

I recognize that in the big picture, it's far preferable to have it this way than to allow people to literally lift stuff off your property without leaving scents, but it doesn't have to be all-or-nothing--I'd be happy if there was any way of preventing this, no matter how restricted. Hell, as an example, we already have lock-and-key mechanics--maybe if someone drops a lockable container w/ an installed lock, and they have the key to open it, they can pick it back up and take it off the claim, no matter where they are. That seems like a reasonable compromise.

But really I'll take literally anything that's even a fraction of a step above "set down a container on someone's vclaim, gone forever"
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Granger » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:36 am

I dislike anything that hides ownership: gift some chests to a newbie, wait for them to be filled, carry them away (as you have a key) sounds bad.
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Beezer12Washingbeard » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:40 am

Granger wrote:I dislike anything that hides ownership: gift some chests to a newbie, wait for them to be filled, carry them away (as you have a key) sounds bad.

Right, your idea of a grace period is better.
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Beezer12Washingbeard » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:50 pm

Bumping because this is silly. I must be missing something here.

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I died :( but after inheriting and coming back & reclaiming my body, I can't bury it--I set the body down within village borders, and now when I try to pick it up I get the message "That land is owned by [my village]"

Is there something I'm missing to inherit the village again? I already re-bought lawspeaker
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby Granger » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:27 am

In case your dead character was the only village member you should be able to go to the idol and become lawspeaker, should other characters exist in the village you can use them to oath you back in, should they not have the permission to oath then you have a problem.
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Re: Can't pick up my belongings if set down in a village

Postby jorb » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:13 pm

Idk. Working as intended, but perhaps the grace period could be a thing.
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