Optional PVP

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Optional PVP

Postby Avu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:29 pm

What if Jorb and Loftar made it optional for a world? Access to limited localized resources (salt and icicles and the like) would be open to pvp declared characters (they seem to go crazy for them anyway). Attacking a non pvp character would be impossible but they can be shooed away. A claim can be declared war on and if they do not choose to challenge the declaration (becoming a pvp claim/village) they become vassals of the attacker (a percentage of the experience gained by the vassal is tranfered to the ruler like the current kingdom system heck even a penalty to max lp gain for non full pvp chars). A kingdom would still be needed to access the full benefits of that experience pool once it's available.
Pvp chars would be marked and hosting one in your village (hf and or logged in character) would enable others to behave towards your village as if it was an pvp claim temporarily (get to siege it and the like).

Other than the obvious points of but we like pvp (very few people statistically do it's just concentrated here in the ones still playing), but you can't have a free pvp world because abuse (yeah you fucking can you just have to enforce stuff) and yeah but it will split the playerbase (it's not like there's such a big one if you ignore the alts and the bots and this will let in a lot more larpers and casuals which are good for jorbs and loftars pockets) what else is wrong with it?
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby waga » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:03 pm

if someone is rude I want to kick his teeth out
if someone build a village 20 tiles away from my place I want to rape his wife and murder his children
if someone claim all the ressources of the area I want the possibility to fight for it.

it's a pvp game.
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby Ozzy123 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Avu wrote:Optional PVP


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What??
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby Avu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:21 pm

waga wrote:if someone is rude I want to kick his teeth out
if someone build a village 20 tiles away from my place I want to rape his wife and murder his children
if someone claim all the ressources of the area I want the possibility to fight for it.

it's a pvp game.


Vassal him and steal his xp
Minimum claim distance for non pvp chars 500 tiles
Vassal him and dig his resources without scents.


Is there a coherent thought in there somewhere Ozzy?
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby Ozzy123 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:25 pm

It's just hard for me to understand that you are playing this game for 8 years and you think that something like "optional pvp" could ever exist in this game.
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby ven » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:31 pm

The Granger server could be an alternative. I don't think the problem comes from pvp itself, but from the fact you can have multiple characters. In a single-character world everything you do matters more, and risks are much higher, including for griefing, which would definitely remove most of the annoyance of pvp.

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Re: Optional PVP

Postby shubla » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:05 pm

It would be interesting to see what would happen if devs completely removed PvP.
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby Avu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:18 pm

Ozzy123 wrote:It's just hard for me to understand that you are playing this game for 8 years and you think that something like "optional pvp" could ever exist in this game.


I like most everything about the game except the killing of people not so hard to get.
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby NOOBY93 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:23 pm

Avu wrote:
Ozzy123 wrote:It's just hard for me to understand that you are playing this game for 8 years and you think that something like "optional pvp" could ever exist in this game.


I like most everything about the game except the killing of people not so hard to get.

I've been waiting in the shadows, watching your every move. I came to the conclusion that all your ideas are fucking stupid and you should stop posting/replying in C&I
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Re: Optional PVP

Postby Avu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:04 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Avu wrote:
Ozzy123 wrote:It's just hard for me to understand that you are playing this game for 8 years and you think that something like "optional pvp" could ever exist in this game.


I like most everything about the game except the killing of people not so hard to get.

I've been waiting in the shadows, watching your every move. I came to the conclusion that all your ideas are fucking stupid and you should stop posting/replying in C&I


If my ideas are stupid they should be easy to argue against.
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