Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeaker

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Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeaker

Postby Granger » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:07 pm

Possible solution (that is somewhat understandable to the players) for the issue with bypassing claim shield by a villager inside the party:

As only rights that the character actually has can be bled into the party, just make the ability to bypass the shield by siege engines being a sole property of the lawspeaker (in his role of him being the claim 'owner'). Then a lawspeaker could party up with people to enable them to do such things, but a simple villager can't - so the mechanic stays similar enough to personal claims to avoid confusion while removing these exploits.

Given the contents of the video in the thread I linked, this should imho also apply to changing locks (only abused for griefing anyway).
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby Avu » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:24 pm

If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby jordancoles » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:25 pm

Avu wrote:If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby pedorlee » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:27 pm

jordancoles wrote:
Avu wrote:If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this


Then you would simply use inside rats and destroy the whole village.
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby jordancoles » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:29 pm

pedorlee wrote:
jordancoles wrote:
Avu wrote:If we had a fucking arson system (to both easily destroy your own buildings given a few days and give a base a chance to recover from a raid) in the first place we wouldn't need no stinking use of catapults and shields to destroy our own stuff.

Wreckingballs exist for this


Then you would simply use inside rats and destroy the whole village.

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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby Fierce_Deity » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:46 pm

Hes calling you a rat, and suggesting you would use a wrecking ball to smack down the walls instead.
Anyways +1 to increased village controls and party limitations.
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Fierce_Deity wrote: Sharing claim rights with a party requires a new check box to be marked on the village management screen. So that nonvillage members cannot party outsiders in most cases. In addition to this, using siege such as catapults should not bypass shields for village members or partied members. Another permission for siege within village could be added. Would help solve a lot of this partying bullshit.

Sharing rights with the party is convenient sometimes, but its not something you want every villager to have access to. More village management options please.
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby APXEOLOG » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:59 pm

I don't see any issue. Don't give people vandalism rights and everything will be fine. Vandalism areas can be covered with pclaims or field cairns with specific rights

Insiders and spies always was a feature of this game, noone cared about it in good old W3-W6 times. Until someone "big" got raided by this. Classical H&H community
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby LadyGoo » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:03 pm

APXEOLOG wrote:Insiders and spies always was a feature of this game, noone cared about it in good old W3-W6 times. Until someone "big" got raided by this. Classical H&H community


Same thing happened to Aramore last world. I wonder what has changed this time, btw.
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby Kirche » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:31 pm

It is so predicable that the people who would abuse such a mechanic are also the people who would defend its existence :roll:
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Re: Village claim shield bypass to party only from lawspeake

Postby jordancoles » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:33 pm

Kirche wrote:It is so predicable that the people who would abuse such a mechanic are also the people who would defend its existence :roll:

Nah, I'd like it fixed tbh lol
It is pretty obviously broken

The counter is a plot-based village using pclaims, but I get that not everyone wants to play that way
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