Things you would like to see changed before the new world.

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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Hrenli » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:43 pm

Zepar72 wrote:Would it be possible to disable map rendering through walls? I'm talking about caves / mines.


Not impossible, but it's not trivial and more expensive. Client has to be sent only what character can see (or it will be hacked otherwise), which means much more granular world info between client and server. And all those culling view calculations would have be run on the server... over and over again for all active characters. Compare to "here are your 9 minimaps" protocol. That's just theoretical impracticalicies with it.
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby 2d0x » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:47 pm

Hrenli wrote:
Zepar72 wrote:Would it be possible to disable map rendering through walls? I'm talking about caves / mines.


Not impossible, but it's not trivial and more expensive...

The question is not the complexity of the implementation, but the need for such a function. There are several simple ways, but the most trivial is reducing the range of visibility :\
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Zepar72 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:29 pm

2d0x wrote:
Hrenli wrote:
Zepar72 wrote:Would it be possible to disable map rendering through walls? I'm talking about caves / mines.


Not impossible, but it's not trivial and more expensive...

The question is not the complexity of the implementation, but the need for such a function. There are several simple ways, but the most trivial is reducing the range of visibility :\


That would work too, i guess. But that would become annoying on surface. So maybe reducing visibility range in caves to bare minimum? That wouldn't be strange, considering we're in . . dark caves.
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby shubla » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:29 pm

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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Granger » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:39 pm

Zepar72 wrote:So maybe reducing visibility range in caves to bare minimum? That wouldn't be strange, considering we're in . . dark caves.

There have been some discussions about that: viewtopic.php?p=760070#p760070
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Zepar72 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:44 pm

Granger wrote:
Zepar72 wrote:So maybe reducing visibility range in caves to bare minimum? That wouldn't be strange, considering we're in . . dark caves.

There have been some discussions about that: viewtopic.php?p=760070#p760070


Yeah, i know that one. My issue is more about minimap, so you don't see through walls using minimap. The darkness is another idea whatsoever, which would be cool too imo.
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby 2d0x » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Zepar72 wrote:That would work too, i guess. But that would become annoying on surface. So maybe reducing visibility range in caves to bare minimum? That wouldn't be strange, considering we're in . . dark caves.

Dynamic visibility range, depending on lighting (for example: day, morning and evening, torch at night, night, torch in the mine, mine), if we are talking about implementation; it is hardly advisable to take into account the landscape.
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Granger » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:13 pm

I agree with the minimap to both arguments: it would be nice not having xray look via the minimaps for unexplored areas, but technically it would need removal minimaps and have the server deliver maps in smaller units. Would be a quite invasive change, which I would guess would also be way slower.
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby MightySheep » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:17 pm

I dont want to subscribe and get a shitty bicycle helmet agian, ive already got one, pls tell me thats gonna change?
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Re: Things you would like to see changed before the new worl

Postby Ysh » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:19 pm

MightySheep wrote:I dont want to subscribe and get a shitty bicycle helmet agian, ive already got one, pls tell me thats gonna change?

You have power to change this yourself.
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