Endgame and where it could be found?

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Endgame and where it could be found?

Postby ZoniaX » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:38 pm

The first thing i´m not sure, what kind of game do we have here :
A: A survival PVP game with Permadeath(light), politics, economy, industry...
B: A grindy farmville clone with PVE and some Bad guys you should avoid
C: A Sandbox for bots.

If its B,C or D i´m out

If its A

why dont we get more from this cool stuff bring back PVP

-why can we build the monuments for the Kingdom buffs in our save home? they should be like local resources spread over the map and if a kingdom covers it with his border it can use its power.
If claimed with Pclaim the claim should never get any presence if claimed with Vclaim it should drain a drastic amount of authority so its an expensive thing to maintain with a bot
(the same should be done for local resources)


-why dont we have a central super grid dark cruel and corrupted where no man can build but alot of fine resources can be found scaling upwards to the middle of the map also they should scale up in quality as time goes by and be essencial for Endgame industry.
Death in this land means death no mercy, no log out or hearth home.

-why do we need to grind 4 hours a day to fill 10 cupboards with meatpies to stay in a competitiv stance for PVP remove the hunger modifier or bring back statcap. (troll needs enemies not hats)

-regarding local resources and insta grabing bots on cd: there could be something like "the Spirit of the ancient windthrow" asking you to bring item x in exchange for a root the other idea is when it refills let a bunch of snails or whatever spawn
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Re: Endgame and where it could be found?

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:44 pm

Pvp is toxic
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Re: Endgame and where it could be found?

Postby loskierek » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:48 pm

Its an endless grind, forget pvp unless you join a village that will boost you as a fighter.
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Re: Endgame and where it could be found?

Postby Aceb » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:15 pm

ZoniaX wrote:The first thing i´m not sure, what kind of game do we have here :
A: A survival PVP game with Permadeath(light), politics, economy, industry...
B: A grindy farmville clone with PVE and some Bad guys you should avoid
C: A Sandbox for bots.

If its B,C or D i´m out

If its A

why dont we get more from this cool stuff bring back PVP

-why can we build the monuments for the Kingdom buffs in our save home? they should be like local resources spread over the map and if a kingdom covers it with his border it can use its power.
If claimed with Pclaim the claim should never get any presence if claimed with Vclaim it should drain a drastic amount of authority so its an expensive thing to maintain with a bot
(the same should be done for local resources)


-why dont we have a central super grid dark cruel and corrupted where no man can build but alot of fine resources can be found scaling upwards to the middle of the map also they should scale up in quality as time goes by and be essencial for Endgame industry.
Death in this land means death no mercy, no log out or hearth home.

-why do we need to grind 4 hours a day to fill 10 cupboards with meatpies to stay in a competitiv stance for PVP remove the hunger modifier or bring back statcap. (troll needs enemies not hats)

-regarding local resources and insta grabing bots on cd: there could be something like "the Spirit of the ancient windthrow" asking you to bring item x in exchange for a root the other idea is when it refills let a bunch of snails or whatever spawn


A: For me it is a survival as I am constantly defending my place from wrecking ball. Someone might be bored and sending vandal alt once per week, but they do that and one day of being careless and I might end up without home out of blue. If You go actually and try to interact with people You either met new friends or be taught definition of survival in it's finest.

B: Well, if You're bored by grinding, join a village where You don't have to do too much grinding...

C: Yeah there are some overlords out there.

PvP was always there, the problem is that top players (mostly) have only fighters to fight, they don't do much else. There's no much point in fighting this late world unless something cool will be add or Albion and all other games suddenly crash down.

The idea with outside buff is somewhat nice, but forced as well. I like it as it is that those are in one place. Which also have it downside as those can get bashed in one go after a breach. Also the Pclaim and Vclaim wow buddy, slow down D:

Special zone can be easly replaced with a larger dungeon worldly announced, maybe?

I made a workstation topic, I hope also something will be done about that.
Insta-grabbing bots of localized resources doesn't mean much now as people doesn't care that much about most of'em.

Also, dying in special zones -> dungeon exists.
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Re: Endgame and where it could be found?

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:07 pm

Why can't it be "D) All of the above?"

The Answer is "D) All of the above," though C is more a consequence of players willing to spend a little time automating tedious systems and devs that can't police it well enough.
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