Make coins inspectable

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Make coins inspectable

Postby Granger » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:50 pm

I would like the coins to be inspectable. As tracking individual coins would be expensive and give problems with stacking the inspection should yield the following about the currency: total amount of coins minted and the (ingame) date the supply was increased the last time.

This would give the 'central bankers' (the ones with access to the press to mint the coins) a risk of being caught when inflating the currency.
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby loftar » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:02 am

Not too fond of being able to magically see more coins of the currency being minted just from having a single coin on the other end of the world. I also think there should be some amount of trust involved in issuing currency, just like there is trust involved in more mundane trade.
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby Ardennesss » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:08 am

loftar wrote:Not too fond of being able to magically see more coins of the currency being minted just from having a single coin on the other end of the world. I also think there should be some amount of trust involved in issuing currency, just like there is trust involved in more mundane trade.


So about about inspecting the origin coin press giving data about how many total coins are in circulation?
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:10 am

loftar wrote:Not too fond of being able to magically see more coins of the currency being minted just from having a single coin on the other end of the world. I also think there should be some amount of trust involved in issuing currency, just like there is trust involved in more mundane trade.

We've learned to trust our governments (to some extent) to manage money circulation properly. Some have done a great job at it. Others have used it for political and economic manipulation, yet others have failed miserably and tanked their countries economic value.

It comes down to... can we trust our fellow players? I'm going to say... "probably not," which is why these threads come up. Nobody wants to trust someone that could in the end be a scam artist or just plain troll because there's little or real self-investment to taking on such a role. Do such things in real life? Means you lose yours... either in prison, as the scum of the earth, or just an anonymous death by some random guy that hates you. But in a game? Oops... character deleted. All my monies now be long to... my alts!!
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby Granger » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:46 am

loftar wrote:Not too fond of being able to magically see more coins of the currency being minted just from having a single coin on the other end of the world.
Me neither, but unless you can come up with a way to track this per coin I don't see a better way.

loftar wrote:I also think there should be some amount of trust involved in issuing currency

The problem is not the trust in issuing the currency (as this can be achived by protecting the coin press) but with
Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws.

which makes this a problem for everyone else.

I take it that you want the game to somewhat mirror reality, but does it really need to be in a way that supports each and every scam humanity came up with?
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby shubla » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:57 pm

bad idea

But each coin could have a date of when it was minted though! Like day 444
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby Granger » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:44 pm

shubla wrote:bad idea

Weak argument, on its own.
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby Jalpha » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:46 pm

You inspect the coin.

It is a coin minted during week twelve. There is a stallion rearing on one face, on the other is a phrase...
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby shubla » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:12 pm

Granger wrote:
shubla wrote:bad idea

Weak argument, on its own.

As loftar said, magically just knowing how many coins there are does not sound that cool.


If coins had dates when they were minted, which is quite realistic, it would still provide tools for players to check on inflation and things. "Central banker" could make the dates and amounts of when coins were minted public, to increase his credibility.
Then one could observe the coins in circulation, and find out whether the banker is telling the truth. (If lots of coins made on day X appear on circulation, even though the banker did not mint many coins, or coins at all on that date, something fishy could be going on)
Current system with just completely blind trust is stupid too!

Maybe there are some technical problems though. Like saving date to each coin and how they would work if you merge coin stacks minted on different dates and so on...
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Re: Make coins inspectable

Postby Dakkan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:24 am

Terrible idea. I suggest this one instead: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=61791#p784416
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