Rabbits (Slight complaint)

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Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby Mario_Demorez » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:55 pm

One of my villagers has gone inactive for a month vacation and I have been taking care of the rabbits that belonged to her. I was always told by other players that rabbits are not worth it and make no sense in the game. After a month of trying to find a good use for them I come to the same conclusion.

Lets take the two coop animals in the game side by side.
Quality-
After a month of breeding these rabbits I have gained 10 quality. That is 4 coops, ran just like my chicken coops. However, my chickens raised 30+ points.
Feed-
Rabbits SEEM to require alot more swill/water as well. I dont have proof for this other than me thinking "Did I not feed these guys just the other day?" Maybe its contributed to the fact that giving them swill is not as worth it as giving it to chickens, next point.
Products-
rabbits give bones, meat, and pelt. Same as wild rabbits. 1 fur or 1 leather value. 2 meat. and 1 bone. Chickens however give raw chicken meat (1x), feathers (3x), and bone material (1). Aswell as sometimes a wishbone (Common, extra bone material). We will ignore lucky rabbit foot and golden egg. However; lets not forget that chickens give EGGS. The bread and butter of baking (not literally). Rabbits give nothing else. Cows or pigs give 4 leather as well as meat/milk which overshadow rabbits making them worthless. Chickens give eggs and feathers which make them unique and valuable.
Breeding time-
Chickens breed way faster than rabbits in game. Not sure the exact numbers. IRL Eggs take 21 weeks to fully grow into fertile adults. Rabbits take 24 weeks from impregnation to being fertile adults. not much of a difference in real life. An egg takes 24 hours to be lain in real life as well in game. Rabbits take 30 days to lay a litter of 8 kits. I can fit 11 rabbits in with one buck. I should be getting 3 babies PER day PER hutch. That is not whats happening as far as I can tell.
A quick fix would be to make baby rabbits not eat as much as adult rabbits and increase birth rate of baby rabbits. Not sure the growth rate of rabbits but its about the same in real life as chickens so it should match chickens as well.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby Mario_Demorez » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:02 pm

Another fix would be to raise quantity of meat from hutch grown rabbits.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby CaddoPuma » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:09 pm

The fact that Haven rabbits do not breed like rabbits has been well documented. Until they become valuable with some unique advantage over any other species, fixing the birthrate and swill/water consumption is.....less relevant?

I mean, even if it costs less to tend them and they breed more often, what's the point if you can still get more of everything from other species? They need to make a common product which can only be produced by rabbits, or in the very least more clothing that can only be made from rabbits fur... not just silly looking house slippers. Until they do one or both of those things, making breeding and tending more realistic serves no real purpose because rabbits are still for RP purpose only.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not badmouthing RP nor silly looking RP slippers. I have no problem with RPers so long as they dont try to demand that I play my game their way. Nor am I against making rabbits actually meaningful. I'm just saying that tending costs and breeding rates arent relevant unless the animal itself is more meaningful.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby Mario_Demorez » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:11 pm

CaddoPuma wrote:The fact that Haven rabbits do not breed like rabbits has been well documented. Until they become valuable with some unique advantage over any other species, fixing the birthrate and swill/water consumption is.....less relevant?

I mean, even if it costs less to tend them and they breed more often, what's the point if you can still get more of everything from other species? They need to make a common product which can only be produced by rabbits, or in the very least more clothing that can only be made from rabbits fur... not just silly looking house slippers. Until they do one or both of those things, making breeding and tending more realistic serves no real purpose because rabbits are still for RP purpose only.


Making them cost less makes them useful. 4 rabbit hutches consumes the same amount as 8 chicken coops.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby DPblH » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:35 pm

Peple asked sor this several times ang jorb added 'by popular request'. So what do you want? Balance for this?
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby Mario_Demorez » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:41 pm

DPblH wrote:Peple asked sor this several times ang jorb added 'by popular request'. So what do you want? Balance for this?
Thx god we have otters! From that moment game become such fun and playable!

SImple for it to make sense compared to other things in the game. Baby rabbits eating as much as adult rabbits and taking way longer to reproduce than any other animal in the game doesn’t make sense.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby itworkss » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:58 am

DPblH wrote:Peple asked sor this several times ang jorb added 'by popular request'. So what do you want? Balance for this?
Thx god we have otters! From that moment game become such fun and playable!



I know this is sarcasm, but I would like to point out that adding 'fluff' like this actually does server a purpose of enriching the game world.

Running around in the wild and only ever encountering boars, bears, and deer will get boring. Just having some - albeit rare - encounters with other types of animals, and objects does add a lot to the foundation of experience.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby SZklana » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:25 am

CaddoPuma wrote:I mean, even if it costs less to tend them and they breed more often, what's the point if you can still get more of everything from other species? They need to make a common product which can only be produced by rabbits, or in the very least more clothing that can only be made from rabbits fur... not just silly looking house slippers. Until they do one or both of those things, making breeding and tending more realistic serves no real purpose because rabbits are still for RP purpose only.



About fur, maybe its time to make some animals giving FUR and other "furless fur?" so u can make with fur wraps, furry cloaks, more fur hats, mittens and boots.
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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby Baldarich » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:52 pm

SZklana wrote:
CaddoPuma wrote:I mean, even if it costs less to tend them and they breed more often, what's the point if you can still get more of everything from other species? They need to make a common product which can only be produced by rabbits, or in the very least more clothing that can only be made from rabbits fur... not just silly looking house slippers. Until they do one or both of those things, making breeding and tending more realistic serves no real purpose because rabbits are still for RP purpose only.



About fur, maybe its time to make some animals giving FUR and other "furless fur?" so u can make with fur wraps, furry cloaks, more fur hats, mittens and boots.


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Re: Rabbits (Slight complaint)

Postby ricky » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:54 pm

Just nerf chicken coops tbh.
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