thoughts on bringing back perma death

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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:15 pm

2d0x wrote:One could introduce a simple “veil” (such as a high-pitched fence). Or canopies.

It's an isometric game. Even a 3D game with an adjustable camera would see over and around things. How do you propose this works? It comes down to the same problem as darkness in caves--1) The server has to cull information sent to the client, and 2) a ton of data is sent via the mini-map, anyway.
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby Ysh » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:20 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
2d0x wrote:One could introduce a simple “veil” (such as a high-pitched fence). Or canopies.

It's an isometric game. Even a 3D game with an adjustable camera would see over and around things. How do you propose this works? It comes down to the same problem as darkness in caves--1) The server has to cull information sent to the client, and 2) a ton of data is sent via the mini-map, anyway.

Some kind of structure I guess has advantage over cave lighting of not being so dynamic. But yes, only way for implementing it involve some data culling.
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby 2d0x » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:26 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
2d0x wrote:One could introduce a simple “veil” (such as a high-pitched fence). Or canopies.

It's an isometric game. Even a 3D game with an adjustable camera would see over and around things. How do you propose this works? It comes down to the same problem as darkness in caves--1) The server has to cull information sent to the client, and 2) a ton of data is sent via the mini-map, anyway.

Suppose a canopy can be on the principle of a house house with an arbitrary size, having instead of a floor ordinary ground and where all the walls are the door?
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby Ysh » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:30 pm

2d0x wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:
2d0x wrote:One could introduce a simple “veil” (such as a high-pitched fence). Or canopies.

It's an isometric game. Even a 3D game with an adjustable camera would see over and around things. How do you propose this works? It comes down to the same problem as darkness in caves--1) The server has to cull information sent to the client, and 2) a ton of data is sent via the mini-map, anyway.

Suppose a canopy can be on the principle of a house, having instead of a floor ordinary ground?

How big do you imagine this thing to be?
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby 2d0x » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:34 pm

At this stage, I simply suggested, without thinking about the implementation.
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby Burinn » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:25 pm

2d0x wrote:At this stage, I simply suggested, without thinking about the implementation.


Probably the first time anyone has ever said this. Congratulations!
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Re: thoughts on bringing back perma death

Postby eliminoid » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Jorb, if you are going to remove the ability to teleport while knocked by characters with rage, I'd expect that you also make it so you cannot die from pvp wounds if you don't have the rage skill. Make it so you'll always have minimum of 1hhp in pvp (if you dont have rage).
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