Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

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Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby overtyped » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:13 am

First i will say this before presenting my idea: they are no quest bots now, but botting quests would be absolutely impossible if bots are unable to read the quest text. Maybe having a randomly generated background and random slightly mishapen text? Not to the extent of a captcha ofc. Doing this would mean a player would have to do every single quest to increase their titans cap and not a bot.
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What about having a 300 stat/skill cap, but completing quests increases your cap. So simple quests could be 1, while hardest could be 10. These quests themselves wouldnt give any stats,(which will not hurt the food economy) they would only increase the cap, and give other rewards as usual, which to a cheese and pepper botter only intent on getting 50k stats probably wouldn't be interested in.

Would put a wrench in making titans, since you would have to do that for every single titan you make, which would be thousands or tens of thousands of quests.

Would also be kinda nice if you are intending to make your characters stats evenly distributed. Intentionally not doing quests to only have a 300 cap, so u don't accidentally raise your stats above it could be helpful for that.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby Ysh » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:54 am

overtyped wrote:botting quests would be absolutely impossible if bots are unable to read the quest text.

https://www.mturk.com/
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby overtyped » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:58 am

Ysh wrote:
overtyped wrote:botting quests would be absolutely impossible if bots are unable to read the quest text.

https://www.mturk.com/

wat
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby Ysh » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:59 am

overtyped wrote:
Ysh wrote:
overtyped wrote:botting quests would be absolutely impossible if bots are unable to read the quest text.

https://www.mturk.com/

wat

It is API where you can pay a man to read this text for you for $0.01USD or some thing like this.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby overtyped » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:01 am

So he writes down the text and the bot reads it? What if he has a misspelling? I assume they are from india or china.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby Ysh » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:03 am

overtyped wrote:So he writes down the text and the bot reads it?

Yes, basically. They will convert it to plain text that bot can parse.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby xdragonlord18 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:07 am

overtyped wrote: Maybe having a randomly generated background and random slightly mishapen text? Not to the extent of a captcha ofc. Doing this would mean a player would have to do every single quest to increase their titans cap and not a bot.

wtf do u even no y catpcha exists its to stop bots if u dont make it at least as difficult as the best captcha then ur not going to stop bots this way some of the best captcha systems dont even rely on having the bot or user interpret text they watch the mouse and other user behaviors and anaylze them to see if they appear human y do they do this u ask well its because the bots can see through ur shitty captcha suggestion thats y
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby Ysh » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:07 am

overtyped wrote:What if he has a misspelling? I assume they are from india or china.

Misspelling could be handle any number of ways I think. Most are in US according to this.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby overtyped » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:09 am

Ysh wrote:
overtyped wrote:So he writes down the text and the bot reads it?

Yes, basically. They will convert it to plain text that bot can parse.

This isn't exactly like a capcha tho, it's not like write down 2Ht3
The text is much longer, and they would first have to make a bot that can do what the quest asks of him. I feel like the people in india will have a hard time writing a few full complete sentence without misspelling anything.
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Re: Quest stat cap idea that solves botting

Postby overtyped » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:10 am

xdragonlord18 wrote:
overtyped wrote: Maybe having a randomly generated background and random slightly mishapen text? Not to the extent of a captcha ofc. Doing this would mean a player would have to do every single quest to increase their titans cap and not a bot.

wtf do u even no y catpcha exists its to stop bots if u dont make it at least as difficult as the best captcha then ur not going to stop bots this way some of the best captcha systems dont even rely on having the bot or user interpret text they watch the mouse and other user behaviors and anaylze them to see if they appear human y do they do this u ask well its because the bots can see through ur shitty captcha suggestion thats y

Right, and people from haven are gonna get their hands on the type of software that can see through a capcha? Not sure that is even out there legally.
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