Will a rage character be able to kill a non rage w/ leeches?

[IronHorde]

Felt like this deserved it own thread as it would be a pretty big workaround the new rage and murder mechancs. Has Jorbtar commented on this?
Not sure why they don't just remove being able to add anything onto another character?

[jordancoles]

theft/vandal are locked behind rage I believe

[IronHorde]

I'm sorry I worded it wrong. I meant to say will a rage character be able to kill a non rage character*** fixing title thanks.

[MagicManICT]

Sure. there's all kinds of ways to kill characters without needing rage. Just fight with them enough and eventually the KO concussion will kill them. Leeches are a devious method as complete noobs to the game won't know they're there. (This generally doesn't work on vets since leeches take a couple minutes to start bleeding.)

[Pan_w_okularach]

It's not really the leeches you should be worried about. Idk why did everyone assume you can no longer get killed in combat after the hearth on KO patch.

For purposes of calculating grievous damage from an attack, no attack counts as dealing more damage than your maximum HP. For example: An attack wants to deal 30% grievous damage, and the attack would deal 500 points of damage. The target's maximum HP is 300. The attack will, thus, deal (300 * 0.3 = 90) points of grievous damage.

For those who can't put 2 and 2 together, here's how it works. If someone hits you with a cleave(60% grievous damage) that doesn't quite knock you down but deals enough grievous damage, another cleave will kill you 100% guaranteed. Even if the first cleave was weak, can be as little as just 20% of your max HHP, add Concussion wound from getting KOed, that can take the remaining 20% HHP and kill you. It's actually very very easy to murder someone with no combat stats, no leeches needed.

[MagicManICT]

It's not really the leeches you should be worried about. Idk why did everyone assume you can no longer get killed in combat after the hearth on KO patch.

Some PvPers just suck at combat and are clueless.

It's actually very very easy to murder someone with no combat stats, no leeches needed.

I agree, and if you get into that situation, you're screwed. The deal is with the rage changes, and it does make it harder to catch someone and murder them, but it's still not impossible... unless jorbtar truly did implement something that makes non-rage players murder-proof. I'm not seeing that in patch notes, though.

[Granger]

Would be quite simple though, just make the last point of HHP not go away.

Would have the downside of no longer being to off your own character (even when the need is no longer that pressing as the incentive for credo suicide is gone), so we might need something suggested by the late Onep: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=54281&p=720318&hilit=noose#p720318

[Hrenli]

Would have the downside of no longer being to off your own character

Isn't it what those blue areas of the map are for?

[Adder1234]

Isn't it what those blue areas of the map are for?

Come on, we all know the best way to suicide is using a hedgehog.

[Granger]

Would have the downside of no longer being to off your own character

Isn't it what those blue areas of the map are for?

Wouldn't work in case the last point of HHP wouldn't go away...