Boats and claims

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Boats and claims

Postby shubla » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:50 pm

If a river or lake is claimed with pclaim, we should be able to pass through it with a boat without using criminal acts to leave a tresspassing scent.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Vassteel » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:54 pm

why? get out your boat and go around?
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Granger » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:10 pm

Because using the waterways should be allemansrätten, denying access shouldn't be a passive buff stemming from plopping down a claim somewhere on land.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Vassteel » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:10 pm

Granger wrote:Because using the waterways should be allemansrätten, denying access shouldn't be a passive buff stemming from plopping down a claim somewhere on land.


who says that water is free to roam for you ? I reject your claim of freedom of navigation for my waters ( Rattles Sabre )
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Granger » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:31 pm

Vassteel wrote:
Granger wrote:Because using the waterways should be allemansrätten, denying access shouldn't be a passive buff stemming from plopping down a claim somewhere on land.


who says that water is free to roam for you ? I reject your claim of freedom of navigation for my waters ( Rattles Sabre )

I would have no problem with the actual you denying me navigating your waters.
I just think that claims should not project presence/authority onto water tiles.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Vassteel » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:37 pm

the entire purpose of the Pclaim system is to project presence/authority. if i want to claim a useless river entrance thats my right one could say. your free to try and remove the totem if it bothers you that much. anyone can trespass and there really isn't any negative to doing so.

most people use pclaims near water to claim resources such as quality clay nodes in the shallows.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Hrenli » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:41 pm

I agree it's annoying. But mechanically it's already possible in the game to not be a dick and just open trespassing for white group on pclaim.

So I see it as not a game limitation but player choice. Which is good.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby shubla » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:56 pm

Vassteel wrote:why? get out your boat and go around?

Takes too long time, especially if you have liftables in boat.

If devs dont change mechanics, I will claim every river of the south continent, so that you cannot go through a single river without leaving scents! To prove my point.
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Hrenli » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:01 pm

A semi-solution for this semi-problem could be changing default permissions on a new claim. When you put a new claim it is open for trespassing by default. That way only actual dicks will have rivers "closed" and also the world will be less covered with unnecessary trespassing scents (which is better both aesthetically and performance-wise, even if it's just a tiny little bit less work for the server).
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Re: Boats and claims

Postby Vassteel » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:03 pm

shubla wrote:
Vassteel wrote:why? get out your boat and go around?

Takes too long time, especially if you have liftables in boat.

If devs dont change mechanics, I will claim every river of the south continent, so that you cannot go through a single river without leaving scents! To prove my point.



i accept your challange.
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